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For all framework laptop owners, I'm considering to buy this for myself this christmas. My previous laptop I owned are mostly MBP, laptop from work is mbp, and

For all framework laptop owners, I'm considering to buy this for myself this christmas. My previous laptop I owned are mostly MBP, laptop from work is mbp, and my own gaming PC. 1 of the reason why I like MBP is the sturdiness and build quality, but i'm ready to go on diy stuff and leave apple for my next laptop. I was watching Dave2D video but when I saw the spring of the hinge when opening the laptop and the flex on the screen, it kind a scares me. How does it go for all of you? How's the build quality? also how's the track pad compared to mbp? I don't want to own a laptop where opening the screen with 1 hand feels like it's going to break it. Kind a feels like dell inspiron all over again

cephalization 5y ago
It definitely does not support 1 hand lid operation. Despite the quality not being as high as a macbook pro (I've owned several for comparison) it absolutely does not feel cheap. In cases where you may damage the device, part of the beauty is that all of the parts are sold by Framework and come with replacement guides and any tools you may need (usually just the included screwdriver).
- hamburglar 5y ago
  It’s funny how such a little thing like one-handed lid opening can add up to such a big factor in user experience. I have used MBPs for years and recently switched my personal machine to a yoga c740, which has … ok build quality but not great. One handed opening is hampered in two ways: first, the front of the machine is beveled in a way that makes it impossible to get your finger between the top and the bottom, which is infuriating. The framework has a notch for this, so it doesn’t seem to have this particular problem. The second is the obvious one, which is that the friction from the hinge is large enough to defeat gravity because the base isn’t heavy enough. I’d welcome a heavier base to overcome this, since it will also allow the case to be stiffer. I feel like a total idiot at least a couple times a week while I’m holding my phone in one hand, saying “hang on, let me check” and doing weird contortions to get my laptop open with one hand using my belly to hold the bottom down.
- celrod 5y ago
  From context, do you mean "It definitely does support 1 hand lid operation" instead of "It definitely does not"?
  - burntsushi 5y ago
    They must, because I open my Framework laptop with one hand all the time hah. Never had any problems with it.
data-cat 5y ago
I had similar concerns before getting mine. The build quality is definitely not as high end as a mbp but it's acceptable. I'm happy with it although I do hope they make future versions more sturdy. The track pad is basically the same story. No real complaints but it could be better.
iwasakabukiman 5y ago
The build quality is excellent. It isn't quite as good as a MacBook, but I'm willing to take the hit from A+ to A- for the repairablity. It's much better than any other laptop I've used aside from a MacBook Pro. The screen does flex a bit but unless you're actively applying torque to it, you won't notice. It's totally fine when opening and closing it.
- robertwt7 5y ago
  True, I love repairability, but then I also love A+ build quality and because I can't try it out, i'm not sure if i will regret it when I got mine later. Looking at Dave's video, the only thing that's holding me back was when he try to flex the screen :( Honestly the build quality of MBP is so good that it's holding me back from changing into something else. Hopefully V2 of framework will come with the sturdiness, no brainer for sure
  - burntsushi 5y ago
    I have a Framework laptop and it's sturdy as hell. At least as much as any MBP I've touched. Opening it with one hand feels great. The thought of it "feeling like it's going to break" has never crossed my mind.

cephalization 5y ago

It definitely does not support 1 hand lid operation. Despite the quality not being as high as a macbook pro (I've owned several for comparison) it absolutely does not feel cheap. In cases where you may damage the device, part of the beauty is that all of the parts are sold by Framework and come with replacement guides and any tools you may need (usually just the included screwdriver).

hamburglar 5y ago
It’s funny how such a little thing like one-handed lid opening can add up to such a big factor in user experience. I have used MBPs for years and recently switched my personal machine to a yoga c740, which has … ok build quality but not great. One handed opening is hampered in two ways: first, the front of the machine is beveled in a way that makes it impossible to get your finger between the top and the bottom, which is infuriating. The framework has a notch for this, so it doesn’t seem to have this particular problem. The second is the obvious one, which is that the friction from the hinge is large enough to defeat gravity because the base isn’t heavy enough. I’d welcome a heavier base to overcome this, since it will also allow the case to be stiffer. I feel like a total idiot at least a couple times a week while I’m holding my phone in one hand, saying “hang on, let me check” and doing weird contortions to get my laptop open with one hand using my belly to hold the bottom down.
celrod 5y ago
From context, do you mean "It definitely does support 1 hand lid operation" instead of "It definitely does not"?
- burntsushi 5y ago
  They must, because I open my Framework laptop with one hand all the time hah. Never had any problems with it.

data-cat 5y ago

I had similar concerns before getting mine. The build quality is definitely not as high end as a mbp but it's acceptable. I'm happy with it although I do hope they make future versions more sturdy. The track pad is basically the same story. No real complaints but it could be better.

iwasakabukiman 5y ago

The build quality is excellent. It isn't quite as good as a MacBook, but I'm willing to take the hit from A+ to A- for the repairablity. It's much better than any other laptop I've used aside from a MacBook Pro. The screen does flex a bit but unless you're actively applying torque to it, you won't notice. It's totally fine when opening and closing it.

robertwt7 5y ago
True, I love repairability, but then I also love A+ build quality and because I can't try it out, i'm not sure if i will regret it when I got mine later. Looking at Dave's video, the only thing that's holding me back was when he try to flex the screen :( Honestly the build quality of MBP is so good that it's holding me back from changing into something else. Hopefully V2 of framework will come with the sturdiness, no brainer for sure
- burntsushi 5y ago
  I have a Framework laptop and it's sturdy as hell. At least as much as any MBP I've touched. Opening it with one hand feels great. The thought of it "feeling like it's going to break" has never crossed my mind.