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Then buy any of the 3 billion Android handsets. Most average $100 and were out of beta in 08'.

necrotic_comp 5y ago
Android handsets aren't really linux boxes. I can't ssh into them, I can't write little python scripts, etc. An actual, general purpose, real foss portable phone factor computer will be amazing as it matures.
- nottaylorswift 5y ago
  There's nothing new here. I remember having those features in the Nokia N900 in 09. I think this product is grossly overpriced for a cheap generic Android phone loaded with a beta Linux distro. In Shenzhen they'll sell you a case of 50 for $400. Save your money or buy a Quest 2.
  - oynqr 5y ago
    Except this one is going to run a close to mainline kernel pretty soon and those android phones will be stuck in the last decade, forever.
    - Ekaros 5y ago
      How soon is other software on it is usable? Kernel really doesn't matter too much if rest is unusable...
      - nottaylorswift 5y ago
        It took Google tens of thousands of paid top tier developer hours to make Android useable. I'm betting never. In a year or two there's going to be some nasty passive aggressive apology blaming the woes of the world for why it couldn't happen and these guys will go home with their big sack of money. Seriously you want a shit Android ARM phone loaded with a beta Linux distro? Let's order a lot from Shenzhen and everyone can pay the $50 it's worth.
        hutzlibu 5y ago
        "It took Google tens of thousands of paid top tier developer hours to make Android useable." Is that a guess, or a fact?
        sergeykish 5y ago
        Then Shenzhen manufactures should open source device drivers.
- int_19h 5y ago
  > I can't ssh into them https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.xnano.android.sshserver https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.xnano.andr... > I can't write little python scripts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iiec.pydroid3 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iiec.pydroi... And those don't even require an unlocked bootloader. If you do unlock, sky's the limit - it really is a general purpose portable computer then.
  - jcul 5y ago
    You can install termux and from there do all the normal SSH, python, linuxy stuff you like.

Android handsets aren't really linux boxes. I can't ssh into them, I can't write little python scripts, etc. An actual, general purpose, real foss portable phone factor computer will be amazing as it matures.

nottaylorswift 5y ago
There's nothing new here. I remember having those features in the Nokia N900 in 09. I think this product is grossly overpriced for a cheap generic Android phone loaded with a beta Linux distro. In Shenzhen they'll sell you a case of 50 for $400. Save your money or buy a Quest 2.
- oynqr 5y ago
  Except this one is going to run a close to mainline kernel pretty soon and those android phones will be stuck in the last decade, forever.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    How soon is other software on it is usable? Kernel really doesn't matter too much if rest is unusable...
    - nottaylorswift 5y ago
      It took Google tens of thousands of paid top tier developer hours to make Android useable. I'm betting never. In a year or two there's going to be some nasty passive aggressive apology blaming the woes of the world for why it couldn't happen and these guys will go home with their big sack of money. Seriously you want a shit Android ARM phone loaded with a beta Linux distro? Let's order a lot from Shenzhen and everyone can pay the $50 it's worth.
      - hutzlibu 5y ago
        "It took Google tens of thousands of paid top tier developer hours to make Android useable." Is that a guess, or a fact?
      - sergeykish 5y ago
        Then Shenzhen manufactures should open source device drivers.
int_19h 5y ago
> I can't ssh into them https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.xnano.android.sshserver https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.xnano.andr... > I can't write little python scripts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iiec.pydroid3 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iiec.pydroi... And those don't even require an unlocked bootloader. If you do unlock, sky's the limit - it really is a general purpose portable computer then.
- jcul 5y ago
  You can install termux and from there do all the normal SSH, python, linuxy stuff you like.