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The Vive is all but irrelevant. It's specs are wildly outdated. It also doesnt have more game support, since Quest can play everything thats native to it and al

The Vive is all but irrelevant. It's specs are wildly outdated. It also doesnt have more game support, since Quest can play everything thats native to it and all the PCVR titles the Vive can.

superkuh 5y ago
> It's specs are wildly outdated. The original v1 release vive specs still exceed the quest and quest 2 in all ways related to hardware except maybe comfort and peripherals. Framerate, resolution, diopter adjustment, external tracking, the ability to actually use a real PC and video card without extra latency. The vive wins. And later vives and valve headsets like the index win more.
- vividllama 5y ago
  Framerate and resolution definitely not. Quest 2: 1832x1920 per eye, up to 120 fps Vive: 1080×1200 per eye, up to 90 fps. And as a owner of both, the screen door effect is extremely noticeable on vive, but just about eliminated on quest 2. External tracking is a tradeoff, it is more accurate but requires more setup and the cable gets in the way frequently. Personally with a wifi 6 router and 120fps, latency in wireless mode is good enough that I rarely if ever use my vive these days.
- thebigman433 5y ago
  The Quest 2 framerate goes up to 120, it has significantly higher resolution. The original vive doesnt have diopter adjustment. If you meant IPD, then it has an extra 2mm over the Quest 2, not particularly important. The Quest 2 also has FAR superior lenses. The original Vive lenses are the second worst (WMR being the worst) lenses to ever ship in a major consumer HMD. The Quest 2 also only has a minor (unnoticeable) latency jump when wired to a PC, and can function as a wireless headset. There is a reason the Quest 2 is by far the most popular headset on PC
- unclefishbits 5y ago
  I too was confused by the statement. I went to VP2, which I think has best specs on the market, and even w/ slight loss of vertical, it's amazing and fun.
mhh__ 5y ago
The vive may be outdated but it's still some of the best fun you can have on a PC. I will upgrade eventually now that I can afford it but except for high res applications the vive still holds it own. The tracking is excellent to this day.
- thebigman433 5y ago
  No doubt its still tons of fun. My comment was just relating to buying one now
  - amelius 5y ago
    What do you think of the HTC Vive Flow?
    - thebigman433 5y ago
      The actual headset is cool but I dont think the target market that they want actually exists yet. And the input method blows hard
- lostgame 5y ago
  Setting up all those stupid sensor boxes is a massive chore that takes away the immense joy of throwing it in a backpack and bringing it to the cottage for a round of Beat Sabre. Honestly, I hated setting up, packing up and re-setting up my Vive. As a VR dev, I had to do it so often that the benefits of the sensor-free, wire-free, and; of course, most importantly computer-free operation of the Quest - combined with its ability to mimic 90% of the experiences I’d had on the Vive without the need for that extra PC - far far outweigh anything the Vive has to offer. And if I want what the Vive has to offer, I can just plug in to my PC. This is speaking from years of experience as a VR dev and user. This external sensorless experience means everything. Say what you will about the need to register with a Facebook account. I need to register with PSN to get a lot of serious leverage out of a PlayStation console. That’s been consoles for decades. It’s obvious people just pick on this because of its attachment to Facebook. I’m just glad it’s opening up the experience of VR to more people in a massively low cost and practical way that did not exist before.
unclefishbits 5y ago
Vive Pro 2 is literally the best specs on the market right now, followed by Valve Index.

The Vive is all but irrelevant. It's specs are wildly outdated. It also doesnt have more game support, since Quest can play everything thats native to it and all the PCVR titles the Vive can.

superkuh 5y ago

> It's specs are wildly outdated. The original v1 release vive specs still exceed the quest and quest 2 in all ways related to hardware except maybe comfort and peripherals. Framerate, resolution, diopter adjustment, external tracking, the ability to actually use a real PC and video card without extra latency. The vive wins. And later vives and valve headsets like the index win more.

vividllama 5y ago
Framerate and resolution definitely not. Quest 2: 1832x1920 per eye, up to 120 fps Vive: 1080×1200 per eye, up to 90 fps. And as a owner of both, the screen door effect is extremely noticeable on vive, but just about eliminated on quest 2. External tracking is a tradeoff, it is more accurate but requires more setup and the cable gets in the way frequently. Personally with a wifi 6 router and 120fps, latency in wireless mode is good enough that I rarely if ever use my vive these days.
thebigman433 5y ago
The Quest 2 framerate goes up to 120, it has significantly higher resolution. The original vive doesnt have diopter adjustment. If you meant IPD, then it has an extra 2mm over the Quest 2, not particularly important. The Quest 2 also has FAR superior lenses. The original Vive lenses are the second worst (WMR being the worst) lenses to ever ship in a major consumer HMD. The Quest 2 also only has a minor (unnoticeable) latency jump when wired to a PC, and can function as a wireless headset. There is a reason the Quest 2 is by far the most popular headset on PC
unclefishbits 5y ago
I too was confused by the statement. I went to VP2, which I think has best specs on the market, and even w/ slight loss of vertical, it's amazing and fun.

mhh__ 5y ago

The vive may be outdated but it's still some of the best fun you can have on a PC. I will upgrade eventually now that I can afford it but except for high res applications the vive still holds it own. The tracking is excellent to this day.

thebigman433 5y ago
No doubt its still tons of fun. My comment was just relating to buying one now
- amelius 5y ago
  What do you think of the HTC Vive Flow?
  - thebigman433 5y ago
    The actual headset is cool but I dont think the target market that they want actually exists yet. And the input method blows hard
lostgame 5y ago
Setting up all those stupid sensor boxes is a massive chore that takes away the immense joy of throwing it in a backpack and bringing it to the cottage for a round of Beat Sabre. Honestly, I hated setting up, packing up and re-setting up my Vive. As a VR dev, I had to do it so often that the benefits of the sensor-free, wire-free, and; of course, most importantly computer-free operation of the Quest - combined with its ability to mimic 90% of the experiences I’d had on the Vive without the need for that extra PC - far far outweigh anything the Vive has to offer. And if I want what the Vive has to offer, I can just plug in to my PC. This is speaking from years of experience as a VR dev and user. This external sensorless experience means everything. Say what you will about the need to register with a Facebook account. I need to register with PSN to get a lot of serious leverage out of a PlayStation console. That’s been consoles for decades. It’s obvious people just pick on this because of its attachment to Facebook. I’m just glad it’s opening up the experience of VR to more people in a massively low cost and practical way that did not exist before.

unclefishbits 5y ago

Vive Pro 2 is literally the best specs on the market right now, followed by Valve Index.