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So, that's kind of the point is that the more we study bodies and collect data on their differences the more we might be able to find / create sports where men,
by awb 5y ago
So, that's kind of the point is that the more we study bodies and collect data on their differences the more we might be able to find / create sports where men, women and transgender can compete on a relatively level playing field together. And we perhaps already have many of those sports in the Olympics like equestrian, darts, curling, motor biking, sailing etc.
By including those events in the chart and showing little to no difference between the sexes in some sports, I think it actually helps the case that those other sports in the chart (which heavily favor strength and therefore testosterone), should continue to be played in separate divisions based on testosterone levels to create an even playing field.
But just saying transgender women shouldn't compete with women in any sport (which is what the paper is advocating), I don't think is backed up by the data. I think that's why people are mad, is that they conveniently skip over all of the mixed sports where testosterone is of little to no advantage, but then say that the male advantage is "insurmountable in nearly all sports" but only provide data on the sports that are already split up.
So, their proposition that transgender women not be allowed to compete with women in darts, sailing, etc. seems biased and they awkwardly skip providing any data around those sports in the paper.
- bluecalm 5y agoI am sorry to be blunt but you seem to be a kind of person who never was around serious competition. Men have significant advantage in darts, motor biking, sailing and it's not even remotely close in the case of last two. Men also have very significant advantage in chess which can't be explained by participation rate (a lot of recent discussion about it, I won't get into it but the conclusion is clear). In case of sailing it is obvious for anyone who ever done some - it's pays off to be strong and very often it pays off to be heavy. It also seems men do better in events that require prolonged focus (chess, go, bridge, eSports) without physical component. We don't know exactly why yet but denying that only creates unreasonable expectations for women.