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German BigBrotherAwards 2021

54 points by rapnie 5y ago

ktpsns 5y ago
https://bigbrotherawards.de/en/2021/education-proctorio https://bigbrotherawards.de/en/2021/education-proctorio this one is really evil.
- growt 5y ago
  And it doesn't really work? The student could easily keep a second device which is not monitored nearby and out of sight of the camera. For the webcam based "room-scan" just hold it your other hand behind the laptop.
- SimeVidas 5y ago
  > Use of the Proctorio software also requires the Google Chrome browser to be installed on the students’ computers. Why am I not surprised. The only major browser that doesn’t block any trackers by default is the perfect fit for this type of software.
  - rataata_jr 5y ago
    Similar to separate work laptop, I think separate study laptop is the solution. Otherwise just don't attend uni.
1cvmask 5y ago
And they forgot to include authoritarian Angela Merkel, the German government and the mass media mouthpieces for the German state in the awards. https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/06/24/germanys-new-surveillance-laws-raise-privacy-concerns https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/06/24/germanys-new-surveillanc...
- kleiba 5y ago
  Please, let's keep it on a factual level. I really wish that you'll never have to live in an actual authoritarian regime...
nivenkos 5y ago
A lot of this seems over-the-top, like the criticism of DoctoLib. Attacking that will just mean the alternative is calling the doctors' reception manually and hoping to get through, and then giving up all medical confidentiality to the receptionist instead... It seems like a lot of "privacy concerns" just end up being Luddite rubbish. The expansion of CCTV is a great thing for society for example, as anyone who's been the victim of burglary or mugging will tell you (I assume the well-off authors of these awards live in pseudo-gated communities where this isn't a concern). It's also telling that two of the items are direct consequences of the lockdowns. Hopefully people will begin to see them for what they are.
- kleiba 5y ago
  In the 20th century, Germany has twice experienced what it can mean to your life when your privacy is constantly undermined. Of course, this does not mean that every time data about you is collected it automatically and immediately means harm to you. But it raises the potential for it.
  - nivenkos 5y ago
    They had much bigger issues than just data sharing though. It's not like things would have been fine if only your medical appointments were never stored on AWS.
  - hulitu 5y ago
    And still haven't learned. There are a lot of companies which collect user data in Germany besides Google, Facebook, Apple and Microsoft.
- kickling 5y ago
  > I assume the well-off authors of these awards live in pseudo-gated communities Bold assumption, what is it based on?
- klaustopher 5y ago
  > Attacking that will just mean the alternative is calling the doctors' reception manually and hoping to get through, and then giving up all medical confidentiality to the receptionist instead... Talking to a receptionist of a doctor‘s office (that are bound by confidentiality) is a completely different thing than one huge private company collecting data from all doctor‘s offices
kleiba 5y ago
My impression is that this is just one guy's website, not backed by an actual group (whatever that would be...). Am I right?
- universa1 5y ago
  It is backed by an association (for a lack of a better word, the e.v. part) and the awards usually get some press in Germany, at least in the tech/computer/... realm.
- danohuiginn 5y ago
  Not at all. This is backed by https://digitalcourage.de/ https://digitalcourage.de/, which is a pretty well-established association
  - kleiba 5y ago
    Alright, thanks very much. I guess I was deceived by the not quite professional grasp of English, and repeated use of "I" in some of the justifications.
collyw 5y ago
No mention of coerced vaccination and the associated passports that are being forced on much of the world?

54 points by rapnie 5y ago

https://bigbrotherawards.de/en/2021/education-proctorio https://bigbrotherawards.de/en/2021/education-proctorio this one is really evil.

growt 5y ago
And it doesn't really work? The student could easily keep a second device which is not monitored nearby and out of sight of the camera. For the webcam based "room-scan" just hold it your other hand behind the laptop.
SimeVidas 5y ago
> Use of the Proctorio software also requires the Google Chrome browser to be installed on the students’ computers. Why am I not surprised. The only major browser that doesn’t block any trackers by default is the perfect fit for this type of software.
- rataata_jr 5y ago
  Similar to separate work laptop, I think separate study laptop is the solution. Otherwise just don't attend uni.

1cvmask 5y ago

And they forgot to include authoritarian Angela Merkel, the German government and the mass media mouthpieces for the German state in the awards. https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/06/24/germanys-new-surveillance-laws-raise-privacy-concerns https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/06/24/germanys-new-surveillanc...

kleiba 5y ago
Please, let's keep it on a factual level. I really wish that you'll never have to live in an actual authoritarian regime...

nivenkos 5y ago

A lot of this seems over-the-top, like the criticism of DoctoLib. Attacking that will just mean the alternative is calling the doctors' reception manually and hoping to get through, and then giving up all medical confidentiality to the receptionist instead... It seems like a lot of "privacy concerns" just end up being Luddite rubbish. The expansion of CCTV is a great thing for society for example, as anyone who's been the victim of burglary or mugging will tell you (I assume the well-off authors of these awards live in pseudo-gated communities where this isn't a concern). It's also telling that two of the items are direct consequences of the lockdowns. Hopefully people will begin to see them for what they are.

kleiba 5y ago
In the 20th century, Germany has twice experienced what it can mean to your life when your privacy is constantly undermined. Of course, this does not mean that every time data about you is collected it automatically and immediately means harm to you. But it raises the potential for it.
- nivenkos 5y ago
  They had much bigger issues than just data sharing though. It's not like things would have been fine if only your medical appointments were never stored on AWS.
- hulitu 5y ago
  And still haven't learned. There are a lot of companies which collect user data in Germany besides Google, Facebook, Apple and Microsoft.
kickling 5y ago
> I assume the well-off authors of these awards live in pseudo-gated communities Bold assumption, what is it based on?
klaustopher 5y ago
> Attacking that will just mean the alternative is calling the doctors' reception manually and hoping to get through, and then giving up all medical confidentiality to the receptionist instead... Talking to a receptionist of a doctor‘s office (that are bound by confidentiality) is a completely different thing than one huge private company collecting data from all doctor‘s offices

kleiba 5y ago

My impression is that this is just one guy's website, not backed by an actual group (whatever that would be...). Am I right?

universa1 5y ago
It is backed by an association (for a lack of a better word, the e.v. part) and the awards usually get some press in Germany, at least in the tech/computer/... realm.
danohuiginn 5y ago
Not at all. This is backed by https://digitalcourage.de/ https://digitalcourage.de/, which is a pretty well-established association
- kleiba 5y ago
  Alright, thanks very much. I guess I was deceived by the not quite professional grasp of English, and repeated use of "I" in some of the justifications.

collyw 5y ago

No mention of coerced vaccination and the associated passports that are being forced on much of the world?