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Adventuron – Text Adventure Authoring in the Browser

148 points by freediver 5y ago

Korpocalypse 5y ago
awesome fun, albeit lots of typos
anthk 5y ago
Being aware of the background of the author, I guess it has ZX support, for sure, but not for the z-machine. Anyway, more IF is always good, but not for the ones like "Choose your own adventure", as these game are extremely linear. OFC, most of IF games can be put as "linear", but a lot of them have different methods to reach a point or solve a puzzle.
- cogburnd02 5y ago
  Would be great if there were files available for the Z-machine that played out the original Edward Packard CYOA series, like Through The Black Hole, e.g.
  - anthk 5y ago
    Those could be implemented trivially even with raw Inform6. Or any language. Even HTML, too.
  - dfabulich 5y ago
    They're not available for sale, but you can find them all as clickable epubs. (Any device that can run a Z-machine can run an epub reader just as easily.)
    - mrob 5y ago
      Any modern device will run both, but Infocom's Z-machine ran on old 8-bit home computers. Even if you ignore EPUB's image support (which includes the complicated SVG format), EPUB is zipped XHTML+CSS. I'd be very surprised if you could fit a parser and renderer for all that in the limited RAM they had available.
      - anthk 5y ago
        V3 games ran on 8 bit computers, but v5 games (most of modern ones) only run well under a 16 bit one. As for epubs, netbsd runs on Amiga and Classic Mac, and if lynx and unzip work, so do epub files with a crappy script. It's 2020 and an RPI or an ESP32 are dirt cheap, and you can get a 486 machine even for free.
    - cogburnd02 5y ago
      I suppose an epub would be pretty easy to convert (on a modern machine) into something like ZIL for ZILF. Good thinking.
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atum47 5y ago
I was working on something similar, but without graphics. This seems really well made. Nice job.
bobbytuck 5y ago
It'd be nice if it compiles down to ZIL.
ilaksh 5y ago
If you look at the itch.io section there are a lot of games made with this engine. I feel like I usually don't have energy for games anymore. But more than that, there are an effectively infinite number of games or media to select from. It's a bit frustrating that I am not able to explore many of them. I mean I might spend a couple of minutes with a game once in awhile and then decide to move on. But I think many of them would be really interesting if I could take the time for a deep dive. The sheer volume of creative content produced is amazing. I think there are many worthy efforts that get overlooked.
- WalterGR 5y ago
  > If you look at the itch.io section there are a lot of games made with this engine. ... The sheer volume of creative content produced is amazing. Looks like nearly 100. https://itch.io/c/790679/adventuron-games https://itch.io/c/790679/adventuron-games
Waterluvian 5y ago
This is ridiculously awesome. But I can’t do graphics. Can we use AI to generate graphics based on the descriptions, and do it in pixel art style?
- hantusk 5y ago
  we're not far away :) https://twitter.com/nshepperd1/status/1446004530433323018 https://twitter.com/nshepperd1/status/1446004530433323018 There's a notebook too, if you're curious
- bserfaty 5y ago
  Can I give an AI a bunch of drawings and it will make a text adventure out of it?
TulliusCicero 5y ago
Any recommendations for games made with this engine?
- woolion 5y ago
  I can recommend ours: https://okfeather.itch.io/feathery-christmas https://okfeather.itch.io/feathery-christmas It's a ~1/2 hour playthrough, with music and graphics, and the source is on github: https://github.com/okfeather/feathery_christmas https://github.com/okfeather/feathery_christmas
  - TulliusCicero 5y ago
    Thanks!
dyates 5y ago
Gruescript is a similar system, released a couple of months ago (though it doesn't have official support for graphics): https://versificator.itch.io/gruescript https://versificator.itch.io/gruescript https://github.com/robindouglasjohnson/gruescript https://github.com/robindouglasjohnson/gruescript
anothernewdude 5y ago
It's a shame you can't self-host the editor. My main use-case for doing this was to occupy me when I was without internet.
- forkhandles 5y ago
  The current release version was uploaded to archive dot org a few months back (for self hosting): https://archive.org/details/adventuron-classroom-beta-68j https://archive.org/details/adventuron-classroom-beta-68j
aleks224 5y ago
I'm thinking of doing this with my kids for programming exploration + imagination development. Anyone has ideas how to quickly generate pictures/graphics, such as, draw them by hand and make them super small PNGs? It seems that drawing them by an image editor would be super tedious.
- freediver 5y ago
  The otherwise excellent tutorial doesnt mention it: https://adventuron.io/documentation/tutorial-a.html https://adventuron.io/documentation/tutorial-a.html So I am thinking using something like https://www.pixilart.com/draw https://www.pixilart.com/draw To take it further this is a great use for Text 2 IMG AI models https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/text2img https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/text2img https://vision-explorer.allenai.org/text_to_image_generation https://vision-explorer.allenai.org/text_to_image_generation https://creator.nightcafe.studio/create/text-to-image https://creator.nightcafe.studio/create/text-to-image https://hotpot.ai/art-maker https://hotpot.ai/art-maker and then something like this at the end: https://pixel-me.tokyo/en/ https://pixel-me.tokyo/en/

148 points by freediver 5y ago

awesome fun, albeit lots of typos

Being aware of the background of the author, I guess it has ZX support, for sure, but not for the z-machine. Anyway, more IF is always good, but not for the ones like "Choose your own adventure", as these game are extremely linear. OFC, most of IF games can be put as "linear", but a lot of them have different methods to reach a point or solve a puzzle.

cogburnd02 5y ago
Would be great if there were files available for the Z-machine that played out the original Edward Packard CYOA series, like Through The Black Hole, e.g.
- anthk 5y ago
  Those could be implemented trivially even with raw Inform6. Or any language. Even HTML, too.
- dfabulich 5y ago
  They're not available for sale, but you can find them all as clickable epubs. (Any device that can run a Z-machine can run an epub reader just as easily.)
  - mrob 5y ago
    Any modern device will run both, but Infocom's Z-machine ran on old 8-bit home computers. Even if you ignore EPUB's image support (which includes the complicated SVG format), EPUB is zipped XHTML+CSS. I'd be very surprised if you could fit a parser and renderer for all that in the limited RAM they had available.
    - anthk 5y ago
      V3 games ran on 8 bit computers, but v5 games (most of modern ones) only run well under a 16 bit one. As for epubs, netbsd runs on Amiga and Classic Mac, and if lynx and unzip work, so do epub files with a crappy script. It's 2020 and an RPI or an ESP32 are dirt cheap, and you can get a 486 machine even for free.
  - cogburnd02 5y ago
    I suppose an epub would be pretty easy to convert (on a modern machine) into something like ZIL for ZILF. Good thinking.

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atum47 5y ago

I was working on something similar, but without graphics. This seems really well made. Nice job.

bobbytuck 5y ago

It'd be nice if it compiles down to ZIL.

ilaksh 5y ago

If you look at the itch.io section there are a lot of games made with this engine. I feel like I usually don't have energy for games anymore. But more than that, there are an effectively infinite number of games or media to select from. It's a bit frustrating that I am not able to explore many of them. I mean I might spend a couple of minutes with a game once in awhile and then decide to move on. But I think many of them would be really interesting if I could take the time for a deep dive. The sheer volume of creative content produced is amazing. I think there are many worthy efforts that get overlooked.

WalterGR 5y ago
> If you look at the itch.io section there are a lot of games made with this engine. ... The sheer volume of creative content produced is amazing. Looks like nearly 100. https://itch.io/c/790679/adventuron-games https://itch.io/c/790679/adventuron-games

Waterluvian 5y ago

This is ridiculously awesome. But I can’t do graphics. Can we use AI to generate graphics based on the descriptions, and do it in pixel art style?

hantusk 5y ago
we're not far away :) https://twitter.com/nshepperd1/status/1446004530433323018 https://twitter.com/nshepperd1/status/1446004530433323018 There's a notebook too, if you're curious
bserfaty 5y ago
Can I give an AI a bunch of drawings and it will make a text adventure out of it?

TulliusCicero 5y ago

Any recommendations for games made with this engine?

woolion 5y ago
I can recommend ours: https://okfeather.itch.io/feathery-christmas https://okfeather.itch.io/feathery-christmas It's a ~1/2 hour playthrough, with music and graphics, and the source is on github: https://github.com/okfeather/feathery_christmas https://github.com/okfeather/feathery_christmas
- TulliusCicero 5y ago
  Thanks!

dyates 5y ago

Gruescript is a similar system, released a couple of months ago (though it doesn't have official support for graphics): https://versificator.itch.io/gruescript https://versificator.itch.io/gruescript https://github.com/robindouglasjohnson/gruescript https://github.com/robindouglasjohnson/gruescript

anothernewdude 5y ago

It's a shame you can't self-host the editor. My main use-case for doing this was to occupy me when I was without internet.

forkhandles 5y ago
The current release version was uploaded to archive dot org a few months back (for self hosting): https://archive.org/details/adventuron-classroom-beta-68j https://archive.org/details/adventuron-classroom-beta-68j

aleks224 5y ago

I'm thinking of doing this with my kids for programming exploration + imagination development. Anyone has ideas how to quickly generate pictures/graphics, such as, draw them by hand and make them super small PNGs? It seems that drawing them by an image editor would be super tedious.

freediver 5y ago
The otherwise excellent tutorial doesnt mention it: https://adventuron.io/documentation/tutorial-a.html https://adventuron.io/documentation/tutorial-a.html So I am thinking using something like https://www.pixilart.com/draw https://www.pixilart.com/draw To take it further this is a great use for Text 2 IMG AI models https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/text2img https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/text2img https://vision-explorer.allenai.org/text_to_image_generation https://vision-explorer.allenai.org/text_to_image_generation https://creator.nightcafe.studio/create/text-to-image https://creator.nightcafe.studio/create/text-to-image https://hotpot.ai/art-maker https://hotpot.ai/art-maker and then something like this at the end: https://pixel-me.tokyo/en/ https://pixel-me.tokyo/en/