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Why the flamebaity, judgemental, artificial HN title for a very objective descriptive article?
by soneca 5y ago
Why the flamebaity, judgemental, artificial HN title for a very objective descriptive article?
- subpixel 5y agoI've read the article and find the title quite apt, as a sweatshop is: > a factory or workshop...where manual workers are employed at very low wages for long hours and under poor conditions. They refer to their process as a 'factory model', and if those aren't poor conditions then why is their attrition rate so high?
- Kiro 5y ago> Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- namdnay 5y agoThey don’t work for very low wages though… the wages are usually quite high relative to the local COL
- soneca 5y agoNot manual work, not low wages (far from it), not likely to be long hours. “Poor conditions” are more open to interpretation, but they are working from their homes, so not “poor workplace condition”.
- throwaway675309 5y ago"Tryba argues that the current cloud wage for a C++ programmer is $15 an hour, the minimum wage at many US companies." Additionally many of their new contractors are US based. Bus drivers make more than that(~18 USD). You are WAY OFF BASE.
- raxxorrax 5y agoPerhaps if you employs third world devs, but I doubt you get anything of quality for that price. That said, there is enough economically successful software with awful quality.
- namdnay 5y ago15 dollars an hour is great pay if you're in India
- soneca 5y agoHold on with your caps lock. Minimum wage in Brazil would be less than USD1.50/hour (in today's exchange rate, assuming you are earning for 40 hours/week). 10x the minimum wage for a junior position is a great wage. Also, I don’t think the american contractors earn the same rate of the ones in poorer countries. It seems very unlikely to me.
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- billyhoffman 5y agoAgreed. @dang can we change the title? The words "billionaire" "sweatshop" or "empire" never appear in the article, let alone the title. Reasonable people can disagree about this approach to building and running software companies. The article does a good job describing how a sort of a CA for the SMB market functions. It's an interesting and informative read, regardless of how you feel about it
- orourkek 5y agoWhile you're correct for 2/3 words, "billionaire" is the fifth word in the article: > Joe Liemandt is the billionaire founder and CEO of Trilogy Software and ESW Capital
- Kiro 5y agoFlagged it until title is changed.
- throwaway5752 5y agoI think it's better to follow guidelines and use the correct title, too, but I disagree that it is very judgmental. They fire US based staff after an acquisition, have 69% annual attrition, use spyware on their international contractors, and use accounting (NOL carry forwards) and patent trolling tactics to increase returns... at least allegedly per the article. Most people here would not want to work at a place like this. It sounds like it checks a lot of boxes for a sweatshop.
- fxtentacle 5y agoI agree that the article is good and useful, but the title is too much.