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I'm not sure what you are referring to with terms like "innocent", "crime", "compulsion" etc when the topic is a covid vaccine. I don't know why everyone's up

I'm not sure what you are referring to with terms like "innocent", "crime", "compulsion" etc when the topic is a covid vaccine. I don't know why everyone's up in arms about this particular vaccine. Kids around the world are given vaccines for polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, tuberculosis, hepatitis B, hiaemophilus influenza type b (Hib), diarrhea, smallpox etc. Why is everyone up in arms about this particular vaccine, esp. when the mRNA based ones don't even have any part of the virus? I can't think of any reason other than stupid/criminal politicians on the right using whatever slogans they can to influence their sheeple to maintain their foothold. Jeez.

brigandish 5y ago
> I'm not sure what you are referring to with terms like "innocent", "crime", "compulsion" etc when the topic is a covid vaccine. Why I'm referring to them is because the only members of society we usually compel to do anything are: - children - those in the military - those guilty of a crime - those who have lost their mind Adults innocent of a crime, not in the military, and who are compos mentis are not subject to compulsion - to compel them would likely be a crime. > I don't know why everyone's up in arms about this particular vaccine. I am not everyone and I am not up in arms about the vaccine, I am responding to the element of compulsion and violation of the normal situation of legal standing between an individual and the government (who would be the ones doing the compelling). If you compel someone to get any of the other vaccines listed, then I would be "up in arms" about that too.
- sriram_malhar 5y ago
  All laws and rules of a society are compulsions if you want to read it that way. Stopping at a red light, removing ones shoes at the airport, not going the other way on a one-way street, headlights turned on in the dark, stopping for pedestrians .... these are all compulsions and public safety measures. I see the covid vaccines (now that they have been so extraordinarily tested) as benignly ... I don't see why words such as 'compulsion' and 'crime' even enter the picture.
  - brigandish 5y ago
    I find that when people need to expand the definitions of common words to render them virtually meaningless and, more importantly, strangely convenient to their point of view and the argument they are presenting, that is the point I realise that they’re not interested in a proper discussion and leave, entirely unpersuaded.

brigandish 5y ago

> I'm not sure what you are referring to with terms like "innocent", "crime", "compulsion" etc when the topic is a covid vaccine. Why I'm referring to them is because the only members of society we usually compel to do anything are: - children - those in the military - those guilty of a crime - those who have lost their mind Adults innocent of a crime, not in the military, and who are compos mentis are not subject to compulsion - to compel them would likely be a crime. > I don't know why everyone's up in arms about this particular vaccine. I am not everyone and I am not up in arms about the vaccine, I am responding to the element of compulsion and violation of the normal situation of legal standing between an individual and the government (who would be the ones doing the compelling). If you compel someone to get any of the other vaccines listed, then I would be "up in arms" about that too.

sriram_malhar 5y ago
All laws and rules of a society are compulsions if you want to read it that way. Stopping at a red light, removing ones shoes at the airport, not going the other way on a one-way street, headlights turned on in the dark, stopping for pedestrians .... these are all compulsions and public safety measures. I see the covid vaccines (now that they have been so extraordinarily tested) as benignly ... I don't see why words such as 'compulsion' and 'crime' even enter the picture.
- brigandish 5y ago
  I find that when people need to expand the definitions of common words to render them virtually meaningless and, more importantly, strangely convenient to their point of view and the argument they are presenting, that is the point I realise that they’re not interested in a proper discussion and leave, entirely unpersuaded.