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>Chocolate makes dogs incredibly sick as well, while not having the same effect on humans. Few people know this, but the thing in chocolate that kills dogs, th
by whatshisface 5y ago
>Chocolate makes dogs incredibly sick as well, while not having the same effect on humans.
Few people know this, but the thing in chocolate that kills dogs, theobromine, acts as a caffeine-like stimulant in human beings but with a much longer half-life. Although human livers are much more able to deal with it than dogs, this could conceivably be causing human problems in people who often eat a lot of chocolate less than seven hours before bed.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthine
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine
>I don't know enough about airborne PFAS to know if it warrants a blanket ban on any products with Teflon.
If you look at the CDC website, PFAS has a rap sheet a mile long. You should probably just clean your pans. If you can afford it, get a reverse osmosis system [3], they are very good at removing PFAS.
[2] https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/pfas/health-effects/index.html
[3] https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/reducing-pfas-drinking-water-treatment-technologies https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/reducing-pfas-drinking-wa...
- Dylan16807 5y ago> this could conceivably be causing human problems in people who often eat a lot of chocolate less than seven hours before bed Well so will the actual caffeine. Still, "not having the same effect on humans" is pretty misleading. It's maybe 4x more potent in a dog. Body weight is a much bigger factor. Not many people are going to eat "one ounce of milk chocolate per pound of body weight" or the equivalent dose of darker chocolate.
- poulpy123 5y agoOnly because it's too expensive
- ben_w 5y ago1 oz/lb is about 5kg for an adult male. The price isn’t the only reason you’re not going to eat that much.
- BrandoElFollito 5y agoThis of course varies by person. I am more or less immune to caffeine (in human concentrations), drinking all kind of coffees before going to bed (espresso, filtered, turkish, ...). I noticed several times that it had the opposite effect (putting me to sleep). My brother has the same.
- gadders 5y agoXylitol the artificial sweetener is another thing that is harmless in people but very bad for dogs. https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/xylitol-toxicity-in-dogs https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/xylitol-toxicity-in-d...
- m463 5y agoexcept: "Excessive consumption may induce laxative effects" I wonder about this. Is this a benign side effect, or the body's way of moving a troublesome substance out of the digestive system?
- antasvara 5y agoThe rap sheet you've posted seems to suport my general idea. It states that PFAS has been dangerous in lab animal trials using levels of PFAS that are much higher than environmental levels. It seems there have been some investigations in humans, but to be honest the effects seem largely similar to a lot of other legal substances. Alcohol is dangerous to pregnant women and infants, a fatty burger can raise cholesterol, etc. That is a cause for concern, and I've conceded this in my original comment. However, it's not the strongest evidence for a blanket ban. Or, alternatively, we could treat this as strong enough evidence of an effect and ban many other substances that we use every single day. I can think of plenty of foods that raise cholesterol, and I can certainly think of plenty that pregnant women aren't allowed to eat because of low birth weight fears or other complications.
- whatshisface 5y agoIt's not a question of whether to ban it - none of us could if we wanted to - but of whether to buy it.