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They could compete with each other more aggressively for EU talent, essentially extending the US market for s/w engineers to the EU, but the problem is a huge s

by simonh 5y ago

They could compete with each other more aggressively for EU talent, essentially extending the US market for s/w engineers to the EU, but the problem is a huge swathe of the best EU s/w engineers already move to the US chasing those x3 wages. We're somewhat better off here in the UK, we have a well developed s/w industry in games, defence, embedded systems and finance. The difference is maybe only 2x instead of 3x. On of my daughters is considering going into s/w engineering, so I'm resigning myself to the thought there's a good chance she'll head west on graduation (I'm a Brit). The pull of the US isn't quite so strong here in london if you get into finance, but if you're a top flight talent in say Ireland or Scotland what are you going to do? There are few local opportunities, and no good reason to go to London as against SF or Seattle.

disgruntledphd2 5y ago
> if you're a top flight talent in say Ireland or Scotland what are you going to do? There are few local opportunities, and no good reason to go to London as against SF or Seattle. Actually, London is a bunch easier in that case, as you can freely move there and not need visa sponsorship (specifically talking about Ireland here). London is far too expensive for the tech salaries though, if you're not working in finance.
zerr 5y ago
Not sure about being better though - outside London/Finance sector/FG, six-figure is quite rare, isn't it?
nickd2001 5y ago
Doesn't Dublin now have a hot tech job market? And to some extent other Irish cities such as Cork? If I was a 21-yr old new grad now, I'd be off to Ireland in a flash, live there 5 yrs get a EU passport while you still can. It surprises me more young Brits aren't doing that. Maybe they aren't aware you can still go work in Ireland without a visa. For now , at least... As for SF or Seattle, hasn't the changes to the H1B visa program made that far more difficult for Brits than it used to be?

by simonh 5y ago

disgruntledphd2 5y ago

> if you're a top flight talent in say Ireland or Scotland what are you going to do? There are few local opportunities, and no good reason to go to London as against SF or Seattle. Actually, London is a bunch easier in that case, as you can freely move there and not need visa sponsorship (specifically talking about Ireland here). London is far too expensive for the tech salaries though, if you're not working in finance.

zerr 5y ago

Not sure about being better though - outside London/Finance sector/FG, six-figure is quite rare, isn't it?

nickd2001 5y ago

Doesn't Dublin now have a hot tech job market? And to some extent other Irish cities such as Cork? If I was a 21-yr old new grad now, I'd be off to Ireland in a flash, live there 5 yrs get a EU passport while you still can. It surprises me more young Brits aren't doing that. Maybe they aren't aware you can still go work in Ireland without a visa. For now , at least... As for SF or Seattle, hasn't the changes to the H1B visa program made that far more difficult for Brits than it used to be?