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That's because Angela Merkel is a physicist. Unlike other politicians around the world, she actually knows the risks.

by karlkloss 5y ago

Fckd 5y ago
how come she does'nt know the impact buring coal has on the environmnet?
- dorinlazar 5y ago
  That's not for physicists to know, more for mechanical engineers :D
- moooo99 5y ago
  She knows very well. However, there were protests against nuclear energy in Germany for quite some time. After the Fukushima incident they gained a lot more traction and pressure by the public and political opponents rose dramatically. When the decision was put in place it was around 2011/12 iirc, back then the climate crisis debate was not nearly as big as it is today. Also, burning coal is not the main target for the future of energy generation in Germany. The coal plants are just a side effect of the transition to a primarily renewable energy generation. Unfortunately due to coal energy companies having very close ties with the the ruling CDU Party, it's not surprising to see them get special treatment.
- whizzter 5y ago
  She knows, heck even the Swedish PM back in 1975 knew it (there's a TV clip of him laying it out). Knowing what's best is way different from personal political goals though. North/northwest Europe got pretty damn scared by the Chernobyl fallout (in practice many kinds of wild game was banned for sale for many years afterwards in some countries and we measured everything that could possibly be contaminated) and that scare runs deep for many still today. (This is why you have the irony that the "green parties" in Europe are so damn anti-nuclear despite at least some of them realizing that you can't properly fight global warming without nuclear power)
  - toyg 5y ago
    > you can't properly fight global warming without nuclear power Well, that's technically incorrect - you can still fight it, you just have to renounce some energy use (at worst).
yodelshady 5y ago
Ukraine, the site of the probably the worst nuclear accident in history and a prime food producer, is suffering enormously from desertification due to burning fossil fuels. If that's her calculation, she needs to redo it.
shapefrog 5y ago
Which is why she is pro nuclear. The physicist in her reversed that position when it was a choice of being elected or being kicked out of office. Physicists like power as much if not more than politicians.
- WithinReason 5y ago
  > Physicists like power as much if not more than politicians. An ambiguous statement in this context :)
- rndgermandude 5y ago
  Yes, she changed her stance after Fukushima when public opinion - which wasn't very pro nuclear to begin with - shifted rapidly in Germany. I would agree is was a populist move and not a move based on science. However, she was hardly in a position where she would have lost office. The next federal election was 2 years away, and nuclear, while at the time an important topic that dominated the media of course, was hardly the only topic. Her party might have suffered a somewhat in the short term - in state elections for example - but it's rather unlikely her party would have "lost" the next federal election and she her office. She also never expressed a strong pro-nuclear stance while Chancellor (and as far as I know not before that either), and certainly did not justify such a stance with her scientific background. While in office as Chancellor, she called nuclear a "bridge technology" that should be kept around a while longer until Germany can switch over to renewables at its own pace. The decision to partly reverse the nuclear exit - and the exit was decided years before and was generally seen favorably by Germans - by delaying when nuclear power plants had to go offline - she never planned to build new plants, for example - was less of a declaration for nuclear and had more too do with appeasing the nuclear lobby, and the industry lobby which feared higher energy costs. And it wasn't a decision she was really making all by herself, there was a lot of pressure from within the elites of her own party (most of which do not hold any degrees in physics, just saying), aside from all the lobby pressure. She might have thought and/or still may think of nuclear as favorable, be it because she has a PhD in what was called theoretical chemistry - tho it is more physics than chemistry what she did and concerned nuclear decay reactions/processes - or be it because years before she became chancellor she was Federal Minister for the Environment which includes "nuclear security and oversight", or be it just because any everybody kinda has an opinion. But regardless, she didn't express a very pro nuclear opinion, as you suggest. Unless she declares herself now that she is not running for office anymore, we will not really know what she truly thinks about nuclear and why. Not that her opinion on the matter is particularly more important than the opinion of others...

That's because Angela Merkel is a physicist. Unlike other politicians around the world, she actually knows the risks.

Fckd 5y ago

how come she does'nt know the impact buring coal has on the environmnet?

dorinlazar 5y ago
That's not for physicists to know, more for mechanical engineers :D
moooo99 5y ago
She knows very well. However, there were protests against nuclear energy in Germany for quite some time. After the Fukushima incident they gained a lot more traction and pressure by the public and political opponents rose dramatically. When the decision was put in place it was around 2011/12 iirc, back then the climate crisis debate was not nearly as big as it is today. Also, burning coal is not the main target for the future of energy generation in Germany. The coal plants are just a side effect of the transition to a primarily renewable energy generation. Unfortunately due to coal energy companies having very close ties with the the ruling CDU Party, it's not surprising to see them get special treatment.
whizzter 5y ago
She knows, heck even the Swedish PM back in 1975 knew it (there's a TV clip of him laying it out). Knowing what's best is way different from personal political goals though. North/northwest Europe got pretty damn scared by the Chernobyl fallout (in practice many kinds of wild game was banned for sale for many years afterwards in some countries and we measured everything that could possibly be contaminated) and that scare runs deep for many still today. (This is why you have the irony that the "green parties" in Europe are so damn anti-nuclear despite at least some of them realizing that you can't properly fight global warming without nuclear power)
- toyg 5y ago
  > you can't properly fight global warming without nuclear power Well, that's technically incorrect - you can still fight it, you just have to renounce some energy use (at worst).

yodelshady 5y ago

Ukraine, the site of the probably the worst nuclear accident in history and a prime food producer, is suffering enormously from desertification due to burning fossil fuels. If that's her calculation, she needs to redo it.

shapefrog 5y ago

Which is why she is pro nuclear. The physicist in her reversed that position when it was a choice of being elected or being kicked out of office. Physicists like power as much if not more than politicians.

WithinReason 5y ago
> Physicists like power as much if not more than politicians. An ambiguous statement in this context :)
rndgermandude 5y ago
Yes, she changed her stance after Fukushima when public opinion - which wasn't very pro nuclear to begin with - shifted rapidly in Germany. I would agree is was a populist move and not a move based on science. However, she was hardly in a position where she would have lost office. The next federal election was 2 years away, and nuclear, while at the time an important topic that dominated the media of course, was hardly the only topic. Her party might have suffered a somewhat in the short term - in state elections for example - but it's rather unlikely her party would have "lost" the next federal election and she her office. She also never expressed a strong pro-nuclear stance while Chancellor (and as far as I know not before that either), and certainly did not justify such a stance with her scientific background. While in office as Chancellor, she called nuclear a "bridge technology" that should be kept around a while longer until Germany can switch over to renewables at its own pace. The decision to partly reverse the nuclear exit - and the exit was decided years before and was generally seen favorably by Germans - by delaying when nuclear power plants had to go offline - she never planned to build new plants, for example - was less of a declaration for nuclear and had more too do with appeasing the nuclear lobby, and the industry lobby which feared higher energy costs. And it wasn't a decision she was really making all by herself, there was a lot of pressure from within the elites of her own party (most of which do not hold any degrees in physics, just saying), aside from all the lobby pressure. She might have thought and/or still may think of nuclear as favorable, be it because she has a PhD in what was called theoretical chemistry - tho it is more physics than chemistry what she did and concerned nuclear decay reactions/processes - or be it because years before she became chancellor she was Federal Minister for the Environment which includes "nuclear security and oversight", or be it just because any everybody kinda has an opinion. But regardless, she didn't express a very pro nuclear opinion, as you suggest. Unless she declares herself now that she is not running for office anymore, we will not really know what she truly thinks about nuclear and why. Not that her opinion on the matter is particularly more important than the opinion of others...