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It's not gonna work. Those who organise this activity have enough influence to convince AG to ignore your case.

by akomtu 5y ago

WalterBright 5y ago
I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name, and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping. Regardless of what the AG does. After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner?
- gruez 5y ago
  >I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name "no" >and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. Civil suit is an option, but I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. >After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner? Infliction of violence? Even if the AG doesn't make your life a nightmare, the optics might be bad enough that you'll lose your job.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    > You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. I can press charges. Violently holding people prisoner is a felony. It's not a joke. > I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. > you'll lose your job I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast.
    - semiquaver 5y ago
      Individuals cannot press charges, only a prosecutor vested with the authority of the state may file charges. This is an extremely common misconception largely generated from popular media. Individuals can report a crime to the police, cooperate with prosecutors, and sue privately. https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-the-myth-of-pressing-and-dropping-charges https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-...
    - gruez 5y ago
      >It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. civil judgements can be discharged via bankruptcy. >I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast. Isn't that the problem? There will always be someone who is willing to be a milquetoast, hence why institutions are caving to the slightest pressure from twitter mobs.
      - WalterBright 5y ago
        Bankruptcy isn't a joke, either. Besides, my goal is not to destroy the person. It's to make it costly for him to commit crimes against me.
        gruez 5y ago
        >It's to make it costly for him to commit crimes against me. That only works if he doesn't think the cost is worth it. If you've already gone through the trouble of planning/executing this, I doubt one of the hostages telling you about the potential financial consequences is going to make you change your mind.
        WalterBright 5y ago
        > That only works if he doesn't think the cost is worth it. He'll be finding it out, then.
    - krageon 5y ago
      > I don't want a job [...] Is what your last sentence essentially says. Every organisation you might work for will care about how things look and how what you do reflects on it.
      - WalterBright 5y ago
        No job can require me to submit to being assaulted.
        krageon 5y ago
        Nobody was talking about assault.
        WalterBright 5y ago
        Holding people prisoner is assault. Battery happens when you actually hit people.
- akomtu 5y ago
  You may call them kidnappers for blocking a door in a public space, they'll accuse you of assault and file a lawsuit too (and unlike you, they'll have many buddies witnesses). The judge will dismiss both suits and tell you to not waste the court's time.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    They'll be on video because I'll have my phone out and recording.
    - kelseyfrog 5y ago
      Lack of evidence is not the issue. A more fruitful line of questioning is starting with "What function do courts server and for whom?"

It's not gonna work. Those who organise this activity have enough influence to convince AG to ignore your case.

by akomtu 5y ago

It's not gonna work. Those who organise this activity have enough influence to convince AG to ignore your case.

I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name, and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping. Regardless of what the AG does. After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner?

gruez 5y ago
>I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name "no" >and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. Civil suit is an option, but I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. >After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner? Infliction of violence? Even if the AG doesn't make your life a nightmare, the optics might be bad enough that you'll lose your job.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  > You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. I can press charges. Violently holding people prisoner is a felony. It's not a joke. > I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. > you'll lose your job I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast.
  - semiquaver 5y ago
    Individuals cannot press charges, only a prosecutor vested with the authority of the state may file charges. This is an extremely common misconception largely generated from popular media. Individuals can report a crime to the police, cooperate with prosecutors, and sue privately. https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-the-myth-of-pressing-and-dropping-charges https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-...
  - gruez 5y ago
    >It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. civil judgements can be discharged via bankruptcy. >I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast. Isn't that the problem? There will always be someone who is willing to be a milquetoast, hence why institutions are caving to the slightest pressure from twitter mobs.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      Bankruptcy isn't a joke, either. Besides, my goal is not to destroy the person. It's to make it costly for him to commit crimes against me.
      - gruez 5y ago
        >It's to make it costly for him to commit crimes against me. That only works if he doesn't think the cost is worth it. If you've already gone through the trouble of planning/executing this, I doubt one of the hostages telling you about the potential financial consequences is going to make you change your mind.
        WalterBright 5y ago
        > That only works if he doesn't think the cost is worth it. He'll be finding it out, then.
  - krageon 5y ago
    > I don't want a job [...] Is what your last sentence essentially says. Every organisation you might work for will care about how things look and how what you do reflects on it.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      No job can require me to submit to being assaulted.
      - krageon 5y ago
        Nobody was talking about assault.
        WalterBright 5y ago
        Holding people prisoner is assault. Battery happens when you actually hit people.
akomtu 5y ago
You may call them kidnappers for blocking a door in a public space, they'll accuse you of assault and file a lawsuit too (and unlike you, they'll have many buddies witnesses). The judge will dismiss both suits and tell you to not waste the court's time.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  They'll be on video because I'll have my phone out and recording.
  - kelseyfrog 5y ago
    Lack of evidence is not the issue. A more fruitful line of questioning is starting with "What function do courts server and for whom?"