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The most memorable example of "lack of backbone" for myself was Evergreen State College president, George Bridges. There was a large protest in 2017. The admin

The most memorable example of "lack of backbone" for myself was Evergreen State College president, George Bridges. There was a large protest in 2017. The administration met to discuss the situation. Students prevented the administrators from leaving the meeting room unless they had an escort to ensure the administrators came to a resolution. The president mentioned his need to use the restroom to one of the protest leaders. The student responded, "Hold it."[0] He finally went to the restroom a couple of minutes later, but he was escorted by some of the protesting students.[1] [0] https://youtu.be/Msfsp5Ofz4g?t=290 https://youtu.be/Msfsp5Ofz4g?t=290 [1] https://youtu.be/Msfsp5Ofz4g?t=455 https://youtu.be/Msfsp5Ofz4g?t=455

h2odragon 5y ago
At that point, somebody should get pissed on.
ng12 5y ago
It's shocking, really. The blood-and-guts types are a dying breed, unfortunately.
WalterBright 5y ago
If a person physically prevented me from going to the restroom, I'd press kidnapping charges.
- akomtu 5y ago
  It's not gonna work. Those who organise this activity have enough influence to convince AG to ignore your case.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name, and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping. Regardless of what the AG does. After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner?
    - gruez 5y ago
      >I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name "no" >and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. Civil suit is an option, but I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. >After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner? Infliction of violence? Even if the AG doesn't make your life a nightmare, the optics might be bad enough that you'll lose your job.
      - WalterBright 5y ago
        > You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. I can press charges. Violently holding people prisoner is a felony. It's not a joke. > I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. > you'll lose your job I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast.
        semiquaver 5y ago
        Individuals cannot press charges, only a prosecutor vested with the authority of the state may file charges. This is an extremely common misconception largely generated from popular media. Individuals can report a crime to the police, cooperate with prosecutors, and sue privately. https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-the-myth-of-pressing-and-dropping-charges https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-...
        gruez 5y ago
        >It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. civil judgements can be discharged via bankruptcy. >I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast. Isn't that the problem? There will always be someone who is willing to be a milquetoast, hence why institutions are caving to the slightest pressure from twitter mobs.
        5y ago

h2odragon 5y ago

At that point, somebody should get pissed on.

ng12 5y ago

It's shocking, really. The blood-and-guts types are a dying breed, unfortunately.

WalterBright 5y ago

If a person physically prevented me from going to the restroom, I'd press kidnapping charges.

akomtu 5y ago
It's not gonna work. Those who organise this activity have enough influence to convince AG to ignore your case.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name, and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping. Regardless of what the AG does. After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner?
  - gruez 5y ago
    >I'd politely ask the person holding me prisoner for his name "no" >and if he doesn't step aside I'll inform him that I'll be charging him with kidnapping You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. Civil suit is an option, but I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. >After all, what do you think will happen to you if you hold someone prisoner? Infliction of violence? Even if the AG doesn't make your life a nightmare, the optics might be bad enough that you'll lose your job.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      > You, as an individual can't charge people criminally. I can press charges. Violently holding people prisoner is a felony. It's not a joke. > I suspect you won't get much in the way of financial compensation from a broke college student. It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. > you'll lose your job I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast.
      - semiquaver 5y ago
        Individuals cannot press charges, only a prosecutor vested with the authority of the state may file charges. This is an extremely common misconception largely generated from popular media. Individuals can report a crime to the police, cooperate with prosecutors, and sue privately. https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-the-myth-of-pressing-and-dropping-charges https://www.thsh.com/criminal-justice-insider/as-seen-on-tv-...
      - gruez 5y ago
        >It'll be enough to matter to him. Future wages can be garnished. civil judgements can be discharged via bankruptcy. >I don't want a job where I'm required to be a milquetoast. Isn't that the problem? There will always be someone who is willing to be a milquetoast, hence why institutions are caving to the slightest pressure from twitter mobs.
        5y ago