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Because Zoom only wanted the employees and the appearance of caring about encryption and didn't care about the product.

bpodgursky 5y ago
It's entirely possible they genuinely cared about encryption for their own product, and didn't give two hoots about the Keybase product.
- paholg 5y ago
  If they genuinely cared, they would have started a lot sooner.
  - jenny91 5y ago
    Or they suddenly had a lot of reason to start caring more, and the best way to get competent people onto improving security was an acquihire?
  - surajrmal 5y ago
    Are they not allowed to shift priorities as they grow? I'm sure there are many things you genuinely care for these days which wouldn't have been true a few years ago. It would be dismissive for me to assert you don't truly care about those things, would it not?
  - nvr219 5y ago
    That's not fair. A lot of companies start off not caring about security because they just need to ship and grow. They add security later after they get owned or when they need to take on the type of customer that also genuinely care about security. Maybe they didn't care before and they care now. That's allowed.
    - verandaguy 5y ago
      I disagree. At this point, there's no real reason to just not care about security from day one. There's a wealth of tools and docs, and users are becoming more and more conscious (which is fantastic, for the record!). There's the obvious ethics of keeping the data your users entrust you with safe to the best of your abilities, too.
      - bpodgursky 5y ago
        There's a real reason to not care about security from day one... the competitor who doesn't care will beat you to market, and then you don't get a day 2. Sorry, but the vast majority of people just don't care. Customers want a working product.
JohnHaugeland 5y ago
Zoom wanted the hashes, not the employees.
- NotChina 5y ago
  You are so on the right. But it seems downvoting is how they hide this fact.
- infogulch 5y ago
  Yours is the only comment on this thread so far that mentions hashes. Care to explain what you mean by hashes in this context, and what benefit you think zoom would get from acquiring them?
  - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
    chinese law is such that any company holding password hashes turns them over to the government none of those hashes stand up to government level resources every keybase customer is now available to china, which has a long pattern of logging in as you
    - infogulch 5y ago
      Ah I see, that seems to be a reasonable concern.

It's entirely possible they genuinely cared about encryption for their own product, and didn't give two hoots about the Keybase product.

paholg 5y ago
If they genuinely cared, they would have started a lot sooner.
- jenny91 5y ago
  Or they suddenly had a lot of reason to start caring more, and the best way to get competent people onto improving security was an acquihire?
- surajrmal 5y ago
  Are they not allowed to shift priorities as they grow? I'm sure there are many things you genuinely care for these days which wouldn't have been true a few years ago. It would be dismissive for me to assert you don't truly care about those things, would it not?
- nvr219 5y ago
  That's not fair. A lot of companies start off not caring about security because they just need to ship and grow. They add security later after they get owned or when they need to take on the type of customer that also genuinely care about security. Maybe they didn't care before and they care now. That's allowed.
  - verandaguy 5y ago
    I disagree. At this point, there's no real reason to just not care about security from day one. There's a wealth of tools and docs, and users are becoming more and more conscious (which is fantastic, for the record!). There's the obvious ethics of keeping the data your users entrust you with safe to the best of your abilities, too.
    - bpodgursky 5y ago
      There's a real reason to not care about security from day one... the competitor who doesn't care will beat you to market, and then you don't get a day 2. Sorry, but the vast majority of people just don't care. Customers want a working product.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago

Zoom wanted the hashes, not the employees.

NotChina 5y ago
You are so on the right. But it seems downvoting is how they hide this fact.
infogulch 5y ago
Yours is the only comment on this thread so far that mentions hashes. Care to explain what you mean by hashes in this context, and what benefit you think zoom would get from acquiring them?
- JohnHaugeland 5y ago
  chinese law is such that any company holding password hashes turns them over to the government none of those hashes stand up to government level resources every keybase customer is now available to china, which has a long pattern of logging in as you
  - infogulch 5y ago
    Ah I see, that seems to be a reasonable concern.