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Progressive drug laws in cities like San Francisco are killing people

8 points by Bostonian 5y ago

shams93 5y ago
This sounds like propaganda from the private prison industry. Until you allow doctors to maintain addicts you're going to have people dying from street drugs. But a city can only do the best it can SF doesn't control federal drug policy.
- proc0 5y ago
  "federal drug policy"? What are you talking about? These are local policies. Have you lived or are living in SF? It's a dystopia in some areas where this happens. Needles everywhere, people tweaking out, using the streets as their bathroom, and very dangerous to walk for a city that was supposed to be walkable. > Until you allow doctors to maintain addicts You would have to define "maintain". They won't just stay with the doctors. They want to be partying and doing more drugs, and will fight you if you get in the way.
kaminar 5y ago
Progressives are well known to have illicit dealings that are designed for personal profit based on idiotic policies. Follow the money...bet they are lining their pockets with drug money sources...
joelbondurant 5y ago
Free crack is a basic human right.
proc0 5y ago
Having lived in SF, their policies destroyed the city. Had to move out, even though I loved living in the city for more than a decade. > officials don’t require medical treatment for addicts out of the belief that doing so is more ethically justified than jail and prison. The root of the problem thinking jail and prison is always bad and nothing good comes out of it. Punishment can be good if you see it as a wake-up call for those that can easily make changes in their lives. Many people on the street are just there because they can, but we don't have psychological tools to assess this properly, so instead progressives think everyone has no agency or freewill and needs to be treated like they are unable to do anything about their own situation. > offer drug treatment as an alternative to jail and prison This should have always been the solution. I don't think they'll do any of this now. Especially after defunding the police.

8 points by Bostonian 5y ago

This sounds like propaganda from the private prison industry. Until you allow doctors to maintain addicts you're going to have people dying from street drugs. But a city can only do the best it can SF doesn't control federal drug policy.

proc0 5y ago
"federal drug policy"? What are you talking about? These are local policies. Have you lived or are living in SF? It's a dystopia in some areas where this happens. Needles everywhere, people tweaking out, using the streets as their bathroom, and very dangerous to walk for a city that was supposed to be walkable. > Until you allow doctors to maintain addicts You would have to define "maintain". They won't just stay with the doctors. They want to be partying and doing more drugs, and will fight you if you get in the way.

kaminar 5y ago

Progressives are well known to have illicit dealings that are designed for personal profit based on idiotic policies. Follow the money...bet they are lining their pockets with drug money sources...

joelbondurant 5y ago

Free crack is a basic human right.

proc0 5y ago

Having lived in SF, their policies destroyed the city. Had to move out, even though I loved living in the city for more than a decade. > officials don’t require medical treatment for addicts out of the belief that doing so is more ethically justified than jail and prison. The root of the problem thinking jail and prison is always bad and nothing good comes out of it. Punishment can be good if you see it as a wake-up call for those that can easily make changes in their lives. Many people on the street are just there because they can, but we don't have psychological tools to assess this properly, so instead progressives think everyone has no agency or freewill and needs to be treated like they are unable to do anything about their own situation. > offer drug treatment as an alternative to jail and prison This should have always been the solution. I don't think they'll do any of this now. Especially after defunding the police.