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Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for ne
by npteljes 5y ago
Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for new features that are added?
I think it's foolish to go use software like this, and expect some privacy to happen. Windows and its user are just not on the same page.
What refreshed my hope in IT is the FOSS ecosystem. Where software is passively uncaring about me, the user, instead of working actively against me, which is the case in most of proprietary stuff nowadays.
- mcbishop 5y agoFor some of us (me), tools like this are the difference between no privacy oversight and some oversight. I aspire to be a privacy-aware person rocking Linux, but in the meantime...
- npteljes 5y agoI appreciate this aspect of the ShutUp10. By its existence and popularity, it spreads the message that there is such a thing as privacy, and that it's important.
- stinos 5y agowhat about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? Well, you run the tool again. It even tells you to do that after making changes.
- npteljes 5y agoI acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.
- estaseuropano 5y agoGreat, this is the most constructive answer. Eternal useless pessimism instead of at least trying simple steps to solve the issue. Great credit to the authors of the tool. I used it many times when I was stuck with windows - and I'm grateful that they did all the work to make it.
- spockz 5y agoI read it like GP lost faith because the settings were turned on so frequently. Not because the tools don’t work.
- KronisLV 5y agoI think it's a pretty good idea to automate this sort of software and schedule it to run whenever the OS restarts, or at the same time every day (or multiple times, depending on usage patterns). I don't think it's possible to (easily) figure out when to run something right after the updates change any settings, but it's a good idea to automate away manual work as much as possible! The person that you're replying to certainly has a point about having to run the tool manually being a hassle. Sadly, at the moment there are also no ways to automate running the tool (that i know of), since it's GUI only, as opposed to offering CLI functionality or silent launch options.
- Forbo 5y agoThe most constructive answer is to stop using/supporting/supplying demand for software that doesn't respect the user. Rather than people trying to remove the same warts over and over, progress could be made on a more permanent solution; namely, identifying gaps in the open source ecosystem where the only current solutions are proprietary.
- andrepd 5y agoBut I have already solved the issue: I stopped using Windows.
- mejutoco 5y agoI did not take the comment in the same light. I think it is great that people are creating such software. Seems useful for many users. But looking at the broader context npteljes has a point. Why fight an insecure tool (let's say Windows is insecure for the sake of the argument, I do not have a strong opinion about it) then patch the security on top. Surely the obvious choice is to stop using the insecure tool. Sometimes people want a technical answer, when the answer is to do the obvious. I don't think that is pessimism.
- npteljes 5y ago
- nvr219 5y agoThen perhaps this tool and this operating system are not for you... Windows is good for some things, privacy ain't one of them, and you need to either live with it, work hard to protect your privacy within it, or leave it.
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- stinos 5y agoAssuming you mean trust in MS in general and not in what the OS does: broken trust isn't easy to fix, and this tool indeed doesn't do much in that regard, but it does fix some of the things which lead to the broken trust i.e. what the OS is doing.
- devwastaken 5y agoHistorically tools like these were broken by windows updates and could not keep up with Microsoft's violent efforts in breaking them. You can't even turn off windows defender in the registry anymore, which is the sole reason windows performs terribly on low end devices. It sends the CPU and 5400rpm disk to 100% use all the time. Windows is a threat to national security and Microsoft must be sanctioned. Business if they wish to avoid crypto lockers and actually care about "cyber security" will drop windows in favor of Mac/Linux.
- neogodless 5y agoInteresting. My friend just put Windows 11 on his (original) Surface Go (Pentium Gold 4415Y, 8GB RAM, 128GB), and he cannot stop raving about how fast it is. He said he was considering putting Linux on it, but he isn't feeling the need to now. To be sure, that's not a 5400rpm desk, though, yeah, I haven't had to suffer through one of those in over a decade!
- devwastaken 5y agoIt will be slow in the coming months. Windows has very fast UI response on fresh installs and degrades over time. It's really not an achievement to have responsive UI in 2021, Microsoft just hires the bottom of the barrel and bases everything on group studies, which yields the worst outcomes.
- npteljes 5y agoI agree. Windows is malware. Its good or bad bits are irrelevant, it's perfectly usable as an OS, but in the meantime it's loaded with malicious intent and its business advantage is ruthlessly exploited at every turn. So I don't think that the tool itself is that much useful either. It's good popularity for their creators, that's for sure, who very successfully jumped on the Win10 telemetry paranoia bandwagon. And who I think should change to Linux or BSD is not just business, it's governments especially. How they enable an auto-updating system of another superpower is beyond me.
- teawrecks 5y agoInstalled manjaro Linux as a dual boot. Loving it.
- jakobdabo 5y agoI have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances). Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that I trust (make sure there is no automatic proxy discovery mechanism in the router).
- Jenk 5y agoSince the 21H1 update you might start noticing connection drops since a new wlan autoconfig feature has been added: if windows can't ping home reliably, it will restart your nic. Yep.
- dataflow 5y agoDamn, that's hostility on another level. Do you have a link to more reading on this?
- Jenk 5y agoSorry for the delay.. I actually couldn't find any official docs on this feature but this thread covers the bases: https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/178379-disable-wlan-autoconfig-wifi-auto-recovery-function.html https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/178379-disable-wla... And it appears it may be part of 20h2, not 21h1 update.