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The responsibility lies with the company, not the cogs who are there for a paycheck.

by shepherdjerred 5y ago

slickrick216 5y ago
Nah everyone has a choice. Facebook engineers choose theirs. Don’t infantilise them.
- shepherdjerred 5y ago
  What country do you pay taxes to? Has that country done anything morally wrong since you lived there? If so, why do you still pay them taxes?
  - slickrick216 5y ago
    The justice system holds a gun to my head. Threatening my life and liberty and that of my family.
    - chii 5y ago
      The economic system holds a gun to my head. Threatening my life and financial liberty and that of my family.
      - cloogshicer 5y ago
        Because poor FB engineers have no other economically viable options, right?
  - TechBro8615 5y ago
    Tax status is determined by factors that are (close to) non-optional, such as birth location or country of residency. Employment status – especially at the top strata of a high-skill industry – is determined entirely by individual choice. You must first choose to apply to the company, then choose to accept the job, and then continue to make the same choice each day you don’t quit. Every single engineer at Facebook could walk out the door and get a new job within a week. But if you’re a US taxpayer, good luck renouncing your citizenship. There is no legitimate comparison between the moral obligations of which megacorp direct deposits $10k a month into your bank account, and which geographical lottery you won based on your mother’s birthing location.
ummonk 5y ago
You make it sound like Facebook engineers are unable to work elsewhere.
phy6 5y ago
"They're just doing what they were told to do"
denton-scratch 5y ago
Software engineers earn pretty fat paychecks; they don't have to check their ethics as they enter their workplace. I once refused to work on a project for the USAF, and I think that decision limited my pay and promotion. But I still own my own home, and have an adequate pension. Isn't "I'm just a cog" what the defendants at Nuremberg have usually said?

The responsibility lies with the company, not the cogs who are there for a paycheck.

slickrick216 5y ago

Nah everyone has a choice. Facebook engineers choose theirs. Don’t infantilise them.

shepherdjerred 5y ago
What country do you pay taxes to? Has that country done anything morally wrong since you lived there? If so, why do you still pay them taxes?
- slickrick216 5y ago
  The justice system holds a gun to my head. Threatening my life and liberty and that of my family.
  - chii 5y ago
    The economic system holds a gun to my head. Threatening my life and financial liberty and that of my family.
    - cloogshicer 5y ago
      Because poor FB engineers have no other economically viable options, right?
- TechBro8615 5y ago
  Tax status is determined by factors that are (close to) non-optional, such as birth location or country of residency. Employment status – especially at the top strata of a high-skill industry – is determined entirely by individual choice. You must first choose to apply to the company, then choose to accept the job, and then continue to make the same choice each day you don’t quit. Every single engineer at Facebook could walk out the door and get a new job within a week. But if you’re a US taxpayer, good luck renouncing your citizenship. There is no legitimate comparison between the moral obligations of which megacorp direct deposits $10k a month into your bank account, and which geographical lottery you won based on your mother’s birthing location.

ummonk 5y ago

You make it sound like Facebook engineers are unable to work elsewhere.

phy6 5y ago

"They're just doing what they were told to do"

denton-scratch 5y ago

Software engineers earn pretty fat paychecks; they don't have to check their ethics as they enter their workplace. I once refused to work on a project for the USAF, and I think that decision limited my pay and promotion. But I still own my own home, and have an adequate pension. Isn't "I'm just a cog" what the defendants at Nuremberg have usually said?