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Well... A few years ago I did the same journey, abandoning Firefox for something else. There's several stable and serious browsers out there. After looking for

Well... A few years ago I did the same journey, abandoning Firefox for something else. There's several stable and serious browsers out there. After looking for weeks I created a list of categories... And it depends on what are you willing to sacrifice: Just want a plain browser, without logins, synchronization, without ANY external connections etc: Ungoogled-chromium (Windows, Linux...) and Bromite (Android). Don't care about full web compatibility or speed but keep your privacy under control: Waterfox Classic and Palemoon (Windows and Linux). Don't care about Open Source vs Closed Source licensing (but still preserve some privacy): Vivaldi (the most customizable Chromium-based browser out there but the UI even after several improvements feels a bit slower than other browsers). Don't care about privacy... Then it's quite easy: Edge, Chrome, Opera. If you are into cryptocurrencies or need a nice browser with decent adblocking on iOS: Brave. I decided to use Vivaldi since I like to personalize the looks of my browser quite a lot. The best recommendation is to try everything for a while and settle with the one you feel most comfortable.

brutal_chaos_ 5y ago
I really appreciate your comment. Of that list, Vivaldi seemed like the best option for me (even If proprietary...), but on mobile I noticed page loading lag that happened with Firefox on Android in the early days. So I'm still searching... :/
nsonha 5y ago
All these forks will die because even firefox, a well organised OSS project is struggling That leaves Edge, Chrome, Opera and Vivaldi Because you even mentioned them, I don't think you understand the question. Let me rephrase it: who will develop, and have a sustainable business model for a new browser engine and break Chromium's monoculture, other than Firefox?
- kreeben 5y ago
  >> firefox, a well organised OSS project I see no proof of this. >> is struggling Money-wise, no. Management-wise, hell-to-the-yes.
  - alfiedotwtf 5y ago
    Every time I see Mozilla mentioned on HN, I get sad how badly they screwed things :(
- sharps1 5y ago
  Vivaldi only has a small team. They said in 2016 they only needed five million users to turn a profit (They generate income based on search engine referrals). Another downside to Vivaldi is they don’t push out many releases meaning that their security is likely lagging behind. My assumption on this is their custom UI takes a while to build after a new release. Edge and Chrome both push out timely security updates. EDIT: Typo.
  - nsonha 5y ago
    who cares? They are still Chrome, whether they live or die, the course of the web platform is still unaffected
userbinator 5y ago
Don't care about full web compatibility or speed but keep your privacy under control Dillo, NetSurf. They are fine if you mostly use sites like HN and other mostly-static content, maybe with some forms interaction. Those are HTML4-ish "document web" browsers. There's also all the text-based ones that those who want to send an even stronger message about how much they hate the "modern web" can use.

brutal_chaos_ 5y ago

I really appreciate your comment. Of that list, Vivaldi seemed like the best option for me (even If proprietary...), but on mobile I noticed page loading lag that happened with Firefox on Android in the early days. So I'm still searching... :/

nsonha 5y ago

All these forks will die because even firefox, a well organised OSS project is struggling That leaves Edge, Chrome, Opera and Vivaldi Because you even mentioned them, I don't think you understand the question. Let me rephrase it: who will develop, and have a sustainable business model for a new browser engine and break Chromium's monoculture, other than Firefox?

kreeben 5y ago
>> firefox, a well organised OSS project I see no proof of this. >> is struggling Money-wise, no. Management-wise, hell-to-the-yes.
- alfiedotwtf 5y ago
  Every time I see Mozilla mentioned on HN, I get sad how badly they screwed things :(
sharps1 5y ago
Vivaldi only has a small team. They said in 2016 they only needed five million users to turn a profit (They generate income based on search engine referrals). Another downside to Vivaldi is they don’t push out many releases meaning that their security is likely lagging behind. My assumption on this is their custom UI takes a while to build after a new release. Edge and Chrome both push out timely security updates. EDIT: Typo.
- nsonha 5y ago
  who cares? They are still Chrome, whether they live or die, the course of the web platform is still unaffected

userbinator 5y ago

Don't care about full web compatibility or speed but keep your privacy under control Dillo, NetSurf. They are fine if you mostly use sites like HN and other mostly-static content, maybe with some forms interaction. Those are HTML4-ish "document web" browsers. There's also all the text-based ones that those who want to send an even stronger message about how much they hate the "modern web" can use.