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I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had

by jjcon 5y ago

I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had a great experience with Brave.

throwaway661885 5y ago
Please no https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28746873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28746873 Edit - Also 'Ublock Origin' works best with Firefox https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26755252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26755252
- WithinReason 5y ago
  I couldn't find anything of substance here, just FUD
BiteCode_dev 5y ago
Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative.
- jjcon 5y ago
  >Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative. Brave is Blink not webkit - Blink has been developed by Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Intel and many others. It is the standard for web rendering just as linux is for web hosting. There is nothing wrong with open standards.
  - throwaway661885 5y ago
    It's not as open as one would think. The corporations have too much control over it that if someone forks it, they will be left behind. Check how syncing was disabled in chromium recently.
    - jjcon 5y ago
      >if someone forks it, they will be left behind Is gecko any different in this regard? That is how forking works. >The corporations have too much control over it Blink seems better in this regard, it has received major contributions from just about every major tech company out there diversifying its control. Gecko has been primarily just mozilla (especially these days since it only represents about 3% of the market).
      - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
        So the worst and most powerful IT corporations in the world spreading their vision as a world standard VS a non profit offering ecosystem diversity ? I guess I lost my touch, I've been feeding the troll.
        jjcon 5y ago
        >a non profit offering ecosystem diversity You mean mozilia where over 70% of their revenue is from google? https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/10/mozillas-revenue-jumped-to-828-million-u-s-dollar-in-2019/ https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/10/mozillas-revenue-jumped-to...
  - throwaway2048 5y ago
    Blink is in no way an "open standard"
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    The fact you state blink is a standard is everything that is wrong with browser monoculture. It's like we didn't learn anything from IE6. Also blink is just a fork of webkit.
    - jjcon 5y ago
      >everything that is wrong with browser monoculture What exactly is wrong with open standards? Would you say linux creates a hosting monoculture? That's just ridiculous. Blink has been contributed to by just about every major tech company, that isn't a monoculture thats how open standards work.
      - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
        "standard": https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg
        jjcon 5y ago
        Kinda rich coming from someone that doesn't know the difference between blink and webkit
        yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
        There's no call for ad hominems.
      - SahAssar 5y ago
        Blink isn't a standard, it's an implementation of multiple standards. An implementation cannot be a standard since a standard describes what a implementation needs to do while a implementation will need to both decide what parts of standards to implement and how to implement them and will do many things that are not described in standards. There are many behaviors, bugs and implementation details of Blink that should not and cannot be part of a standard. As soon as a implementation becomes a standard we get ossification and implementation bugs in the standard as the only way to conform to the standard is the exact original implementation. Besides all that while Blink has contributors from many individuals and companies it is clear that google steers the ship. The web standards were built on the idea that multiple independent implementations were crucial, and it is a required step for a proposal to become a standard. Linux isn't a standard either, the standard in that case would be POSIX and linux is "Mostly POSIX-compliant".
xx511134bz 5y ago
They also have a search engine that's good enough most of the time.

by jjcon 5y ago

I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had a great experience with Brave.

throwaway661885 5y ago

Please no https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28746873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28746873 Edit - Also 'Ublock Origin' works best with Firefox https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26755252 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26755252

WithinReason 5y ago
I couldn't find anything of substance here, just FUD

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative.

jjcon 5y ago
>Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative. Brave is Blink not webkit - Blink has been developed by Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Intel and many others. It is the standard for web rendering just as linux is for web hosting. There is nothing wrong with open standards.
- throwaway661885 5y ago
  It's not as open as one would think. The corporations have too much control over it that if someone forks it, they will be left behind. Check how syncing was disabled in chromium recently.
  - jjcon 5y ago
    >if someone forks it, they will be left behind Is gecko any different in this regard? That is how forking works. >The corporations have too much control over it Blink seems better in this regard, it has received major contributions from just about every major tech company out there diversifying its control. Gecko has been primarily just mozilla (especially these days since it only represents about 3% of the market).
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      So the worst and most powerful IT corporations in the world spreading their vision as a world standard VS a non profit offering ecosystem diversity ? I guess I lost my touch, I've been feeding the troll.
      - jjcon 5y ago
        >a non profit offering ecosystem diversity You mean mozilia where over 70% of their revenue is from google? https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/10/mozillas-revenue-jumped-to-828-million-u-s-dollar-in-2019/ https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/10/mozillas-revenue-jumped-to...
- throwaway2048 5y ago
  Blink is in no way an "open standard"
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  The fact you state blink is a standard is everything that is wrong with browser monoculture. It's like we didn't learn anything from IE6. Also blink is just a fork of webkit.
  - jjcon 5y ago
    >everything that is wrong with browser monoculture What exactly is wrong with open standards? Would you say linux creates a hosting monoculture? That's just ridiculous. Blink has been contributed to by just about every major tech company, that isn't a monoculture thats how open standards work.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      "standard": https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg
      - jjcon 5y ago
        Kinda rich coming from someone that doesn't know the difference between blink and webkit
        yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
        There's no call for ad hominems.
    - SahAssar 5y ago
      Blink isn't a standard, it's an implementation of multiple standards. An implementation cannot be a standard since a standard describes what a implementation needs to do while a implementation will need to both decide what parts of standards to implement and how to implement them and will do many things that are not described in standards. There are many behaviors, bugs and implementation details of Blink that should not and cannot be part of a standard. As soon as a implementation becomes a standard we get ossification and implementation bugs in the standard as the only way to conform to the standard is the exact original implementation. Besides all that while Blink has contributors from many individuals and companies it is clear that google steers the ship. The web standards were built on the idea that multiple independent implementations were crucial, and it is a required step for a proposal to become a standard. Linux isn't a standard either, the standard in that case would be POSIX and linux is "Mostly POSIX-compliant".

xx511134bz 5y ago

They also have a search engine that's good enough most of the time.