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Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism, and it indoctrinates students with the belief that everything ev

Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism, and it indoctrinates students with the belief that everything everywhere is politics, always. This mentality has infected "liberal" intellectualism outside the academy, to the point where it is, essentially, the "culture" of much of the Left in the U.S.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
Have you considered that people have reached those beliefs after observing and reflecting on how they perceive the world to work? Why are you so sure it’s “indoctrination” when people come to a conclusion that doesn’t comport with your worldview?
ABeeSea 5y ago
Define what you believe Marxism to be. It isn’t a buzz word for anything to the left of Reagan. And everything is politics. A political system could decide to outlaw computers and the internet. How would your SaaS business survive then?
- xibalba 5y ago
  I define Marxism broadly as the initial poisoning of the left-leaning mind with the concept of the ubiquitous class struggle. It has mutated into a belief system under which there is always an oppressing class and an oppressed class. It can be the landed gentry (oppressors) vs. the commoners (oppressed), capital (oppressors) vs. labor (oppressed), racial majority (oppressors) vs. racial minority (oppressed). But at its core, it is unable to view the current state of the world, or any subdivision thereof, in terms other than oppressed and oppressor, whether any reasonable person would agree or not. And, as can be seen with all Marxists (operating under there many self-ascribed labels), the only cure is revolution and purification. Of course, for those of us with a passing grasp of recent history, its quite clear that both of those will lead to mass violence and death. See also, the Bolshevik Revolution and its ensuing horrors, Mao's revolutions and their ensuing horrors, the Cuban revolution and its continued mass oppression, the French Revolution and all of its violent insanity, etc. etc. > And everything is politics And thus we arrive at Postmodernism. Postmodernism introduces the belief that everything is relative and everything is a construct. There is no base reality, no ground truth–or if there is, we can dismiss it as irrelevant given the all powerful constructs and systems of human life. Thus one can make arguments like, "Everything is always politics" and use such asinine premises as the basis of injecting noxious politics into every facet of our lives. Once again contravening the majority of people's lived experiences and desires.
orwin 5y ago
"Usurped" as in : never ever there was this much progress in history and linguistic since the postmodern invested the fields, and now that postmodernism is present in the archeology field, we have done discoveries that were not even envisionned before. For some reasons it was taken a bridge too far (imo, but i can be wrong, i'm not really interested in the field) in sociology, but still, never read anything better than Bourdieu. Also, Postmodernism in philosophy and sociology is built against Marxism (and Freudism), so i don't really understand the association here.
- xibalba 5y ago
  Postmodernism: "Everything is a construct. Everything is relative. There is no base reality or ground truth." Marxism: "Everything is class struggle. There is always, everywhere and in everything an oppressor and an oppressed. The only cure is revolution and ideological purification." While the two may have been at odds at their inception, they now work together, initially in academia, but now, increasingly, everywhere in the U.S. > now that postmodernism is present in the archeology field, we have done discoveries that were not even envisionned before Citation needed.
woodruffw 5y ago
> Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism Having actually gone through an undergraduate philosophy program in the United States: Marx is a blip. He's barely taught in analytical programs, which are (overwhelmingly) the dominant discipline in American colleges. Postmodernism isn't even mentioned. I spent more time reading Nozick and other politically right-of-center philosophers than I did reading anything resembling left philosophy.

jakelazaroff 5y ago

Have you considered that people have reached those beliefs after observing and reflecting on how they perceive the world to work? Why are you so sure it’s “indoctrination” when people come to a conclusion that doesn’t comport with your worldview?

ABeeSea 5y ago

Define what you believe Marxism to be. It isn’t a buzz word for anything to the left of Reagan. And everything is politics. A political system could decide to outlaw computers and the internet. How would your SaaS business survive then?

xibalba 5y ago
I define Marxism broadly as the initial poisoning of the left-leaning mind with the concept of the ubiquitous class struggle. It has mutated into a belief system under which there is always an oppressing class and an oppressed class. It can be the landed gentry (oppressors) vs. the commoners (oppressed), capital (oppressors) vs. labor (oppressed), racial majority (oppressors) vs. racial minority (oppressed). But at its core, it is unable to view the current state of the world, or any subdivision thereof, in terms other than oppressed and oppressor, whether any reasonable person would agree or not. And, as can be seen with all Marxists (operating under there many self-ascribed labels), the only cure is revolution and purification. Of course, for those of us with a passing grasp of recent history, its quite clear that both of those will lead to mass violence and death. See also, the Bolshevik Revolution and its ensuing horrors, Mao's revolutions and their ensuing horrors, the Cuban revolution and its continued mass oppression, the French Revolution and all of its violent insanity, etc. etc. > And everything is politics And thus we arrive at Postmodernism. Postmodernism introduces the belief that everything is relative and everything is a construct. There is no base reality, no ground truth–or if there is, we can dismiss it as irrelevant given the all powerful constructs and systems of human life. Thus one can make arguments like, "Everything is always politics" and use such asinine premises as the basis of injecting noxious politics into every facet of our lives. Once again contravening the majority of people's lived experiences and desires.

orwin 5y ago

"Usurped" as in : never ever there was this much progress in history and linguistic since the postmodern invested the fields, and now that postmodernism is present in the archeology field, we have done discoveries that were not even envisionned before. For some reasons it was taken a bridge too far (imo, but i can be wrong, i'm not really interested in the field) in sociology, but still, never read anything better than Bourdieu. Also, Postmodernism in philosophy and sociology is built against Marxism (and Freudism), so i don't really understand the association here.

xibalba 5y ago
Postmodernism: "Everything is a construct. Everything is relative. There is no base reality or ground truth." Marxism: "Everything is class struggle. There is always, everywhere and in everything an oppressor and an oppressed. The only cure is revolution and ideological purification." While the two may have been at odds at their inception, they now work together, initially in academia, but now, increasingly, everywhere in the U.S. > now that postmodernism is present in the archeology field, we have done discoveries that were not even envisionned before Citation needed.

woodruffw 5y ago

> Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism Having actually gone through an undergraduate philosophy program in the United States: Marx is a blip. He's barely taught in analytical programs, which are (overwhelmingly) the dominant discipline in American colleges. Postmodernism isn't even mentioned. I spent more time reading Nozick and other politically right-of-center philosophers than I did reading anything resembling left philosophy.