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>it’s just going to make more hardline people. Someone should just send them a link to the three and five year safety data of these vaccines, fight misinformati

>it’s just going to make more hardline people. Someone should just send them a link to the three and five year safety data of these vaccines, fight misinformation with information. Based on the statistics in the OP, and other reported successes (the US military has achieved over 95% compliance) it looks like these mandates are achieving the desired effect: more working adults are getting vaccinated. It seems as though the most effective tool at combating misinformation is not to try and talk over people spouting lies. Instead, it's to make vaccination a matter of workplace safety, which is difficult for even the scammers to dispute convincingly.

listenallyall 5y ago
What exactly is "the desired effect?" If it is to eliminate Covid, the vaccine doesn't seem to help much, considering vaccinated people can still get infected and pass on the infection to others.
- jasonlaramburu 5y ago
  The desired effect of the mandate is to increase the percentage of the workforce that is vaccinated. It appears to be achieving that goal. As has been mentioned many times on this thread and others, unvaccinated people are at least 5X more likely to contract and transmit COVID-19 to others.
  - nradov 5y ago
    Your numbers are way off. I encourage everyone to get vaccinated if they can. But the reduction in risk of transmission is far more limited and temporary than you claim. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y
    - angelzen 5y ago
      > Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus. > A reduction was also observed in people vaccinated with the jab made by US company Pfizer and German firm BioNTech. The risk of spreading the Delta infection soon after vaccination with that jab was 42%, but increased to 58% with time.
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  > eliminate Covid Nothing is 100% in medicine…

listenallyall 5y ago

What exactly is "the desired effect?" If it is to eliminate Covid, the vaccine doesn't seem to help much, considering vaccinated people can still get infected and pass on the infection to others.

jasonlaramburu 5y ago
The desired effect of the mandate is to increase the percentage of the workforce that is vaccinated. It appears to be achieving that goal. As has been mentioned many times on this thread and others, unvaccinated people are at least 5X more likely to contract and transmit COVID-19 to others.
- nradov 5y ago
  Your numbers are way off. I encourage everyone to get vaccinated if they can. But the reduction in risk of transmission is far more limited and temporary than you claim. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y
  - angelzen 5y ago
    > Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus. > A reduction was also observed in people vaccinated with the jab made by US company Pfizer and German firm BioNTech. The risk of spreading the Delta infection soon after vaccination with that jab was 42%, but increased to 58% with time.
dzhiurgis 5y ago
> eliminate Covid Nothing is 100% in medicine…