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Brought to you by the people who all parroted "stop Asian hate" for like 3 weeks last March until it fell off their social media feeds. Kindergarten does seem

Brought to you by the people who all parroted "stop Asian hate" for like 3 weeks last March until it fell off their social media feeds. Kindergarten does seem a bit early to be permanently binning children into "gifted" or "not" but I am so sick of seeing people unhappy with Asians doing well.

civilized 5y ago
“I just don’t buy into the narrative that any one ethnic group owns admission to these schools.” - Richard Carranza, former NYC school chancellor The bigotry from certain "progressives" is just staggering.
- refenestrator 5y ago
  It's a test. The test, as far as I know, doesn't include the question "are you asian".
  - seoaeu 5y ago
    HN regularly has threads full of complaints about how whiteboard interviews don't test the right things and unfairly harm a subset of people that doesn't correlate well to programming ability. It doesn't seem that implausible that the test the district is using has similar flaws in selecting gifted students
    - refenestrator 5y ago
      Sure, but the motivation here is explicit, and it's not about making the test more accurate.
      - civilized 5y ago
        To be fair, there are a variety of factions and motivations, and not everyone is race-baiting like Carranza. It's disturbing is that Carranza types are defended and given power within our cities, but there are also real issues with tests like the SHSAT, which are not as well-validated as other scholastic aptitude tests.
JoeAltmaier 5y ago
That's about as biased as you can get? It was clearly about providing for all. Nothing said about treating Asians and differently.
- refenestrator 5y ago
  The current stats include a ridiculously large number of Asians, and the changes are racially motivated according to the proponents' own words. It doesn't sound like the system was perfect, I'm all for reform that helps everyone. Hurting Asians to create equality isn't it.
  - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    Equality, to the priviledged, looks like persecution. That many Asian kids got a golden ticket, and now won't get a golden ticket, seems like not such a problem to those who were denied any such chance at a golden ticket for generations.
    - refenestrator 5y ago
      You realize a lot of those Asians are from poor, immigrant families, right? You ever spend time in Flushing? Rich white liberals should not be tearing them down in the name of "antiracism".
      - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
        And yes, they were not denied the golden ticket. But others were. Equality can look like persecution, if you used to be a lucky winner.
        refenestrator 5y ago
        Busting your ass as an immigrant is only a "golden ticket" compared to staying in the third world. Meanwhile, the people pushing these changes all have graduate degrees and incredibly privileged backgrounds. It absolutely is persecution and punching down for them to be going after poor immigrants.

civilized 5y ago

“I just don’t buy into the narrative that any one ethnic group owns admission to these schools.” - Richard Carranza, former NYC school chancellor The bigotry from certain "progressives" is just staggering.

refenestrator 5y ago
It's a test. The test, as far as I know, doesn't include the question "are you asian".
- seoaeu 5y ago
  HN regularly has threads full of complaints about how whiteboard interviews don't test the right things and unfairly harm a subset of people that doesn't correlate well to programming ability. It doesn't seem that implausible that the test the district is using has similar flaws in selecting gifted students
  - refenestrator 5y ago
    Sure, but the motivation here is explicit, and it's not about making the test more accurate.
    - civilized 5y ago
      To be fair, there are a variety of factions and motivations, and not everyone is race-baiting like Carranza. It's disturbing is that Carranza types are defended and given power within our cities, but there are also real issues with tests like the SHSAT, which are not as well-validated as other scholastic aptitude tests.

JoeAltmaier 5y ago

That's about as biased as you can get? It was clearly about providing for all. Nothing said about treating Asians and differently.

refenestrator 5y ago
The current stats include a ridiculously large number of Asians, and the changes are racially motivated according to the proponents' own words. It doesn't sound like the system was perfect, I'm all for reform that helps everyone. Hurting Asians to create equality isn't it.
- JoeAltmaier 5y ago
  Equality, to the priviledged, looks like persecution. That many Asian kids got a golden ticket, and now won't get a golden ticket, seems like not such a problem to those who were denied any such chance at a golden ticket for generations.
  - refenestrator 5y ago
    You realize a lot of those Asians are from poor, immigrant families, right? You ever spend time in Flushing? Rich white liberals should not be tearing them down in the name of "antiracism".
    - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
      And yes, they were not denied the golden ticket. But others were. Equality can look like persecution, if you used to be a lucky winner.
      - refenestrator 5y ago
        Busting your ass as an immigrant is only a "golden ticket" compared to staying in the third world. Meanwhile, the people pushing these changes all have graduate degrees and incredibly privileged backgrounds. It absolutely is persecution and punching down for them to be going after poor immigrants.