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I mean, they’re clearly heading toward stealing control of associated open source projects away from the founders/maintainers so I don’t think there’s even room
by RNCTX 5y ago
I mean, they’re clearly heading toward stealing control of associated open source projects away from the founders/maintainers so I don’t think there’s even room to discuss “repairing trust.”
You might discuss repairing trust with a burglar you caught in your house after his criminal trial. At this point, Microsoft is the burglar and he’s still in your house with the ski mask on (unless you would prefer for the burglar to be a she).
- pepoluan 5y ago.NET Foundation is not Microsoft.
- still_grokking 5y agoAfter reading the blog posts linked form this one I would consider this statement very questionable. Maybe it's not MS on paper. But the DNF looks like it would be fully under MS control.
- UltraViolence 5y agoI fully agree. Microsoft is clearly abusing its ownership here to grab all the projects under the .NET Foundation. I'm particularly worried this brouhaha will undermine the entire .NET ecosystem eventually. As I earn my living writing .NET software this could harm me in the long term.
- RavingGoat 5y agoOnly 2 of 7 board members are microsoft
- josefx 5y agoOne of them is the founding member appointee with veto rights.
- RNCTX 5y agoIndeed. I think those affected have commendably kept their cool so far but I’d say this (diversity Trojan horse, “we need full control to enforce the CoC, whoops you’re fired goodbye”) is a playbook that will be often repeated in the coming years.
- oaiey 5y agoThey are not stealing it because in most cases they... Legally ... own it. However, doing something behind the back of the people operating it is tone deaf, stupid and shows a great degree of arrogance and mismanagement. They pulled nuclear options dozens of times in this move. For what: to reorganize billing and streamlining processes. That is not good enough a reason to go nuclear on a maintainer w/o conversation.
- robmen 5y agoWith all due respect, this simply doesn't make any sense. The projects are all released with OSI approved licenses. To use your analogy, all the stuff is already on the front lawn with "For Free" signs. Also, this is about the .NET Foundation not Microsoft.
- RNCTX 5y agoI said "stealing control of" I didn't say stealing the code. Also, the .NET Foundation is Microsoft because a Microsoft employee is doing all of this behind the scenes.