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Yeah, it's more like "DoD vanity project used as backdoor funding/justification for wildlife preserve". The USA launders unpalatable social programs through th
by zenithd 5y ago
Yeah, it's more like "DoD vanity project used as backdoor funding/justification for wildlife preserve".
The USA launders unpalatable social programs through the military, including enormous amounts of basic science funding, several tuition-free universities, and four of the largest jobs programs in the world. Adding wildlife preservation to the list isn't very surprising.
- maxerickson 5y agoMichigan has 2.8 million acres of national forest. I'm not sure 64,000 acres counts as much of anything at that rate. There's a couple National Parks here that are larger than 64,000 acres too.
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- dylan604 5y agoThey didn't say that this 64,000 acres is the total of the effort. It's just a parcel.
- MathCodeLove 5y agoDo you think that these projects don't further the DoD's core objectives? The vast majority of such projects do contribute to the departments ability to wage war and build a competent force.
- iratewizard 5y agoMaintaining wildlife is part of national defense too, I would argue.
- flavius29663 5y agoeverything that goes well in the country contributes to the DoD ability to wage war
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- lmkg 5y agoFree school lunches in the US are a defense program. The draft in WWII was impeded by the fact that poor kids tended to be malnourished, and grew up to be physically unfit for military service.
- nradov 5y agoIronically the military now rejects so many potential recruits for obesity that it has become a national security threat. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/10/10/americas-obesity-is-threatening-national-security-according-to-this-study/ https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/10/10/americas...
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- dzdt 5y agoSo Michelle Obama should have tried to position the push for improved nutrition in school lunches as a pro-military effort to get conservative support?
- angelzen 5y agoTo get conservative support, Michelle should consider a push to support one income families where one family member can dedicate themselves to provide improved nutrition for their own children. Conservatives believe that the State is not a proper substitute for mother + father family, but any measure strengthening the biological family is absolutely anathema in liberal circles. At some level your rhetorical question acknowledges this state of affairs.
- zenithd 5y agoThe Democrat's Expanded Child Tax Credit is the single largest transfer of wealth to SAHMs in the history of the country.
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- mc32 5y agoNah, I think that's coincidence otherwise the Navy would do better cleanups in their own Superfund sites.
- MattGaiser 5y agoI would be curious to see an analysis of this. How much of the USA's military budget goes to things that would normally be done by other institutions in a country like Canada? Canada doesn't have a VA for example. We just have universal health care. The GDP comparisons alone may be misleading.
- Nbox9 5y agoI don’t know if it’s even possible to tease out this number. The US Army even purchases Skilcraft pens [0] in large part because they are manufactured by the visually impaired. Basically every dollar they spend has multiple purposes. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilcraft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilcraft
- culturestate 5y ago> The US Army even purchases Skilcraft pens...in large part because they are manufactured by the visually impaired This is underselling it a little. Skilcraft quite literally would not exist if the federal government weren't required by law to buy supplies from them.
- neither_color 5y agoThe ship this wood is harvested for is older than the DoD and most states. It had to come from somewhere. The DoD isn't even mentioned in this NAVY article. Not everything is a conspiracy.
- zenithd 5y ago> The ship this wood is harvested for is older than the DoD. The DoD isn't even mentioned in this NAVY article. Huh? DoN is part of DoD... > Not everything is a conspiracy. In what sense am I accusing anyone of conspiring? Massive social programs are palatable if you tie them directly to defense. Otherwise they're not palatable. That's not a description of a conspiracy. It's a kind of weird state of affairs, granted, but no conspiring is going on.
- rascul 5y ago> > The ship this wood is harvested for is older than the DoD. The DoD isn't even mentioned in this NAVY article. > Huh? DoN is part of DoD... The US Navy was founded in 1794 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy The USS Constitution was launched in 1797 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution The US Department of Defense was formed in 1947 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_De...
- Talanes 5y agoGovernment departments aren't organized chronologically, however.
- zenithd 5y agoThe DoN is part of DoD. I promise. Even your last link mentions DoN is a child agency of DoD and the DoN wiki page states "The United States Department of the Navy (DoN) is one of the three military departments within the Department of Defense of the United States of America" [1]. -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Navy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_th...