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My hypothesis on this is that all automaker's automatic emergency braking systems likely function at approximately the same level, but Tesla drivers are disprop

My hypothesis on this is that all automaker's automatic emergency braking systems likely function at approximately the same level, but Tesla drivers are disproportionately likely to rely on it due to the use of Autopilot being so incredibly common. Statistically, drivers of other brands that include similar lanekeeping abilities are far less likely to use them compared to Tesla owners' use of Autopilot. Should it be happening? Well the NHTSA doesn't seem to mind it. Maybe we should be asking them why their automatic emergency braking tests are so stupidly out of agreement with what drivers expect and automakers promise that the systems are able to do. The freight industry has a high speed test and their systems are top notch.

Zhenya 5y ago
Sorry, your hypothesis makes no sense. There are WAY more cars sold by other brands, so more Tesla incidents is even more galling. Using autopilot should only HELP the auto braking not make it worse. Other systems use radar and camera. They are thoroughly tested by the OEMs and suppliers to strict tolerances. Meanwhile Tesla is shipping beta software and having people test it. Including removing radar because of “phantom” braking.
- sharkmerry 5y ago
  OPs point was tesla drivers are more likely to use the features. More cars being sold by other brands, could refute that but it doesnt necessarily. Its about the rate of usage of the software X total sales X avg. miles driven
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sparker72678 5y ago
This article addresses automatic emergency breaking, which is ON by default in the vehicles discussed.
- IshKebab 5y ago
  Right but his point is that Teslas are more likely to crash in the first place because people are using Autopilot, which isn't as good as human drivers. So automatic braking gets used more.
SkyPuncher 5y ago
I have a Hyundai with radar based adaptive cruise and AEB. Notably, with cruise control enabled, it gives visual proximity to a leading vehicle. The only case I've ever had an issue is at the crest or base of a steep hill on a secondary road. The angle does not allow the radar to work at the right angle.

Zhenya 5y ago

Sorry, your hypothesis makes no sense. There are WAY more cars sold by other brands, so more Tesla incidents is even more galling. Using autopilot should only HELP the auto braking not make it worse. Other systems use radar and camera. They are thoroughly tested by the OEMs and suppliers to strict tolerances. Meanwhile Tesla is shipping beta software and having people test it. Including removing radar because of “phantom” braking.

sharkmerry 5y ago
OPs point was tesla drivers are more likely to use the features. More cars being sold by other brands, could refute that but it doesnt necessarily. Its about the rate of usage of the software X total sales X avg. miles driven
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sparker72678 5y ago

This article addresses automatic emergency breaking, which is ON by default in the vehicles discussed.

IshKebab 5y ago
Right but his point is that Teslas are more likely to crash in the first place because people are using Autopilot, which isn't as good as human drivers. So automatic braking gets used more.

SkyPuncher 5y ago

I have a Hyundai with radar based adaptive cruise and AEB. Notably, with cruise control enabled, it gives visual proximity to a leading vehicle. The only case I've ever had an issue is at the crest or base of a steep hill on a secondary road. The angle does not allow the radar to work at the right angle.