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Yeah it's not even true that FB is paying a premium. A thread full of people complaining about misinformation happily posting inaccurate information about Faceb
by ditonal 5y ago
Yeah it's not even true that FB is paying a premium. A thread full of people complaining about misinformation happily posting inaccurate information about Facebook.
Go look at levels.fyi. Facebook pays close to market for senior engineers (~450k), more or less in line with companies like Uber, Robinhood, Twitter, Pinterest, LinkedIn, etc. In fact, Facebook doesn't even crack the top 5 on levels for senior SWE comp so this idea that they have to overpay to recruit is clearly false. If anything, if you hang out on Blind, people will pick FB over other companies precisely because it's perceived as having a stronger engineering brand than those other companies.
I think Facebook executive team is full of liars but there are also these weird PR games in play. Uber had a woman complain about not getting a jacket in her size, Google gave Andy Rubin 10 figure bonuses after he credibly raped a report, had scandals with Vic Gundrota/Kelly Ellis, etc. yet Google is still a relatively well perceived company but Uber/TK are mysognistic/sexist companies.
Google got caught literally forwarding private user data to the government without warrants, nobody cares (except Glenn Greenwald I guess).
Sergey Brin and Steve Jobs got caught explicitly and literally illegally colluding to suppress wages but nobody cares.
Google execs were caught lying multiple times w.r.t them building weaponized AI for drones for the DoD in the Maven scandal and that largely washed over.
Eric Schmidt sends out email after email to Google employees to contribute to his SuperPAC and nobody cares. Google builds Dragonfly to censor Chinese political opponents and nobody really cares.
Facebook is an unethical company but companies like Google have objectively far worse scandalds but don't become the media targets. There are weird groupthink/PR plays at work here and it plays out even on Hacker News where accuracy takes a backseat to narrative building.
- Tarsul 5y agothe difference is that facebook is even bad for its users (and disliked by its users). Google is alright for its users (as is, or maybe was, Amazon). I'm talking about perception of course, not reality.
- cto_of_antifa 5y agoJust want to point out using the word "rape" in such a casual and nonspecific way is not okay.
- frakkingcylons 5y ago> Uber had a woman complain about not getting a jacket in her size You have a curiously selective memory if that's what you took away from Fowler's post. Her manager propositions her for sex on her first day. HR gives the manager a pass because he's a high performer and they claim it's his first offense. Only it wasn't his first offense, multiple other women reported him for inappropriate behavior in the past.
- chandra381 5y ago> Uber had a woman complain about not getting a jacket in her size That is a wilful and bad faith misrepresentation of the Susan Fowler situation to such a degree that I am skeptical of everything else you've just written.