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AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next
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- edoceo 5y agoO(1)? Edit: the site didn't make it, I just think the stylized name was cool. O for Object and (1) cause it's fast. Or it would be. I'm not building it.
- encryptluks2 5y agoQ1
- infogulch 5y agoP0 O-1, On1?
- dotancohen 5y agoI believe that the Japanese had an airplane with that designation once, famous for use in suicide attacks, but I cannot find reference to it. Some other models with Zero in the name I can find, but not the P-0.
- HPsquared 5y agoApparently the Zero was officially the "Navy Type 0 carrier fighter". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero
- munk-a 5y agoI assume Q1 is just a service called Queen - it excels at everything and looks amazing doing it.
- stayfrosty420 5y agothis is legit a much better name while also being reductio ad absurdum, it also follows the convention (R2 = rapid, reliable, S3= simple storage service, O1 = object)
- HPsquared 5y ago"Order one".. nice subliminal messaging.
- ape4 5y agoSome company is going to break the mold with "Company Name Object Store"
- todd3834 5y agoWhat I like about the name R2 is the statement that they are aiming to make something better than S3. These are the kinds of competitions that benefit the consumers a ton. I don’t care who wins as long as things continue to get better.
- tra3 5y agoI like how the progress bars moves off screen if you get too excited with the button. Point made :)
- blensor 5y agoAnybody know the logic behind the counter? It sometimes jumps over numbers.
- austinpena 5y agoAll of them increase the score by 1 except: Free Storage!!!! That increases by 10. I took out the "You Gave Away Too Much Free Storage" which was a -20 :P
- partiallypro 5y agoMeanwhile Microsoft is just like...let's called it "Blob"
- Hamuko 5y agoAre you sure it's not Microsoft Azure Blob Storage Solution for Enterprise 2020?
- iosjunkie 5y agoYou’re missing a 365 in there.
- MikusR 5y agoLive .net
- CobrastanJorji 5y agoDid you mean the NFS one or the S3 one?
- andybak 5y agoMicrosoft Blob. That has a certain ring to it.
- alvarlagerlof 5y agoBlob blob blob! Sorry, what's that Dory?
- qudat 5y agoMicrosoft Loblaw law blog
- ethbr0 5y agoThey'd already used Bob. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob
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- bethecloud 5y agoDecentralized Cloud Storage services, like Storj DCS – are really interesting when compared to R2/S3. They are compatible with AWS S3, but with better economics than both R2 and S3 (1/10 price of amazon) - https://docs.storj.io/dcs/getting-started/quickstart-aws-sdk-and-hosted-gateway-mt https://docs.storj.io/dcs/getting-started/quickstart-aws-sdk...
- alvarlagerlof 5y agoIs it worth it to host some disks for this?
- bethecloud 5y agoYeah, as long as you have good uptime. Check out storj.io/node
- etothepii 5y agoWouldn't T4 have been a better name? sure it does create the risk of a U5, but prequels are not usually better. (Unless you love endless discussion about intergalactic politics).
- jgrahamc 5y agoThree years ago I sat in front of a whiteboard with some folks and we sketched out the future roadmap for Cloudflare Workers. Here's a picture of that whiteboard: https://imgur.com/a/nSnrT15 https://imgur.com/a/nSnrT15 We went with "R2" because it better reflects the fact that we want it to be S3 minus one thing: egress fees.
- xwdv 5y agoQ1 will be R2 minus one thing: storage fees.
- tpetry 5y agoP0 has already been built: https://devnull-as-a-service.com/ https://devnull-as-a-service.com/
- dotancohen 5y agoI love the filename on their cleanup script "gift to the open source community": https://devnull-as-a-service.com/one-less-to-go.sh https://devnull-as-a-service.com/one-less-to-go.sh sudo rm -rf $(sudo find / -type f -print0 | shuf -n1 -z)
- smnrchrds 5y agoCertainly not in Canada. T4 is the name of employment income tax slip here, similar to W-2 in the US.
- jjk166 5y agoI imagine most people who complain about intergalactic politics in the prequels must have never gotten to the scene in A New Hope where people just sit around and discuss the dissolution of the galactic senate and the political reordering of the galaxy.
- clessg 5y agoThis is almost as fun as Cookie Clicker!
- kalleboo 5y agoI would just like to give some respect to Backblaze B2 in here!
- Eikon 5y agoB2 is nice but horrendously slow.
- xtracto 5y agoA couple of months ago I was playing with BackBlaze and Oracle cloud. For some reason, mounting a Backblaze storage (using FUSE S3 and BB S3 compatibility ) in Oracle cloud was terribly slow. When I tried exactly the same in an AWS EC2 instance it was quite fast. No idea why that happened.
- dmix 5y agoThis is some great content marketing by Taloflow. Having not paid attention to this story I didn’t realize they chose R because it was one letter behind S in the alphabet. If Cloudflare was a smaller company they’d probably get sued pretty fast. That has happened for much sillier and vain reasons. But I doubt there’s much to gain via the courts in the current state of things. This seems to be standard price competition that all commodity like products resort to.
- floatingatoll 5y agoIf consumers are so likely to confuse "S3" and "R2" that a court would grant trademark enforcement to S3 over this, then Mazda could have successfully sued BMW over the confusion between MX-2 and M3, not to mention the total havoc such a court judgment would wreak upon the SMT labeling industry: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28777350 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28777350 If Cloudflare had an entire AWS-simulation business and was making a clear effort to confuse customers about being "just like AWS, only not Amazon", then that might be an easier case to win, but Cloudflare seems pretty dead-set on being different than AWS (for example, they offer customer support), so that's unlikely. Amazon might still sue just as saber-rattling, but that would open them up to a SLAPP countersuit, against a party that has repeatedly demonstrated that it is willing to fund lawyers to punish those abusing the legal system — not to mention being mocked around the world for suing over a two character product name with no shared characters.
- dorianmariefr 5y agoAWS has customer support
- sokoloff 5y agoTheir (paid) Enterprise Support is quite good, in my experience.
- Hamuko 5y agoI've also had good experiences with the paid support when a deployment went horribly wrong. However, the support costs real money so it's back to Google for us. Luckily we're running on EKS now so it's probably easier to diagnose without a paid customer support rep than CodeDeploy.
- cmenge 5y agoThings get really confusing when you also use SAP R/3, migrating it to S/4: "So the S/4 gets some of its data from R/3 via S3 and writes reports to R2 which are used for a consolidated view in R/3 as long as the analysis isn't migrated to S/4 which will get all data via S3."
- jedberg 5y ago"Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P."
- inopinatus 5y agoR.I.P.
- orliesaurus 5y agoW.T.F. ...
- jeanloolz 5y agoWhat the fuck does WTF means?
- xaerise 5y agoU.S.A. The land of acronyms...
- omarhaneef 5y agoThat's one direction to take the series. OR S3 needs to add P0, and R2 needs to add D2. Can't wait till AZ16, invests in Z-16, and releases their S1.
- politician 5y agoDoes it bother anyone else that the distance between S3 and R2 is sqrt(2), not 1?
- javierga 5y agoClicked before reading title, pressed button like mad. I originally thought it was one of those Elon Musk random child name generators.
- dragontamer 5y agoAnd the successor to the programming language "S" was "R". And C became... C++? D? Rust?
- Buttons840 5y agoIf this trend continues, one day they'll pay me to store my data on their service. Imagine being paid to generate random hashes and store them on the internet. ;)
- dane-pgp 5y agoPresumably that's a clever joke about cryptocurrencies. It took me a while to convince myself that the analogy made sense, and I'm not sure how much I appreciate it, but I suppose that slow confirmation times and questionable value are to be expected when dealing with cryptocurrencies.
- dannyw 5y agoSlow confirmation times aren't really a thing anymore - ETH transactions confirm in about 15 seconds for me, although it's expensive for small to medium amounts (~$8 to send eethereum, ~$25 to send ERC20 tokens, ~$80 to do a Uniswap swap).
- kwakja 5y agoReminds me of HAL Laboratory (videogame developer involved with the original Super Smash Bros. and its sequel, Super Smash Bros. Melee) who did the same thing except with IBM.
- patrickthebold 5y agoWas that before or after HAL in 2001 space odyssey?
- p_l 5y agoDefinitely later :D
- arthurcolle 5y agoThe negative numbers take away from this bigly
- austinpena 5y agoWhat would you suggest? After 0 go back to 2,147,483,647?
- m0th87 5y agoR2 is marketed as "one less than S3!" I used the exact same tagline for a project open sourced in 2019: https://github.com/pachyderm/s2/ https://github.com/pachyderm/s2/ So there you go VCs, I can market as well as cloudflare. Money please!
- dingosity 5y agoSUCH SYNERGY! SO PARADIGM!
- Shtirlic 5y agoAzure P1 ?
- albatross13 5y agoQ1 baby.
- ryaan_anthony 5y agoIs this the new cookie clicker?
- gzer0 5y agoInteresting! var o=r.__SECRET_INTERNALS_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED.ReactCurrentOwner,u=Object.prototype.hasOwnProperty Side note: I must say, Taloflow really knows how to capitalize on that HN traffic flow. :)
- tdeck 5y agoSometimes this goes from R2 to Q1 (makes sense), but sometimes it goes to H1. Is there an alphabet that puts H right before R?
- austinpena 5y agoFixed, added a thank you for you in the console!
- nobody9999 5y ago>Sometimes this goes from R2 to Q1 (makes sense), but sometimes it goes to H1. Is there an alphabet that puts H right before R? And this one goes to 11...Oh wait, wrong movie. Sorry.
- mdtancsa 5y agoWith every Click, I heard "Jack Barker's" voice from Silicon Valley
- divbzero 5y agoYou can do this with HAL too: IBM HAL GZK FYJ EXI DWH CVG BUF ATE ...
- a1369209993 5y agoEXI and BUF sound pausible. ATE is IBM minus eight, which is a nice coincidence.
- davidkuennen 5y agoThat's why I like Google Cloud naming. Compute Engine, Cloud SQL, Cloud Build, Kubernetes, ...
- rudian 5y agoGoogle Cloud yes, Google Play Music All Access not so much.
- soheil 5y agoI was really hoping it'd go into unicode characters.
- schemathings 5y agoWell logically it's P1 next, right? An AI that takes over the world? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1414021.The_Adolescence_of_P_1 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1414021.The_Adolescence_...
- mburns 5y agoThe letter before R is Q.
- schemathings 5y agoNot anymore!
- Banjo911 5y agoI need your fedora, your sandals, and your segway.
- tyingq 5y agoI think they should have rubbed it in with E0 == egress is zero.
- CodeWriter23 5y agoThough funny (kinda hilarious at A-41 actually) this applet misses the point that R2 was chosen because CloudFlare was undercutting Amazon in every way possible, including the product name.
- snug 5y agoWhen I worked at Cloudflare a long time ago, we had a code name for the Global Loadbalancers we were working on named G6. F5 + 1
- legel 5y agoS-23 lol
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- rileytg 5y agocall it whatever u like, looks like a fantastic product to me! i hope they can sustain this...
- ummwhat 5y agoProfits Q4?
- mshanu 5y agoR2 means “Really Requestable” from their website, really..
- enz 5y agoQ1 is pretty cute, actually.
- sillycube 5y agoWhen is cloudflare rolling out its cloud hosting service?
- miovoid 5y agoIt looks like passive aggression from AWS engineers.
- smoyer 5y agoI think we could all see a pattern in the product names but I was hoping for more: EMC Q1 (using Dell servers?) Google P0 iCloud O-1
- vlowther 5y agoShades of NCR vs. IBM, to call back to an even older school acronym pissing match.