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It's an interesting story but there seems to be no connection to the OP. It's a different field, different researchers, from a different institution. What's th
by FatalLogic 5y ago
It's an interesting story but there seems to be no connection to the OP. It's a different field, different researchers, from a different institution.
What's the connection?
- yellow_lead 5y agoSeriously. I was looking for one myself. The only thing I can think of is that he noticed they both have Chinese names. Nice
- mekkkkkk 5y agoI don't think they're referring to the nationality of the people involved, but rather the nationality of the institutions.
- shusaku 5y agoIt drives me crazy how socially acceptable racism against Chinese people is on hacker news. In another thread I saw a top comment say about a paper “I won’t believe it until westerners reproduce it”. This despite several authors being based at US universities (but having Chinese names!)
- incrudible 5y agoIt is perfectly acceptable to call out flaws in US culture, why should it be different for China? What does race have to do with it? Do you see anyone claiming that Han people are genetically predisposed to forging research papers?
- windsignaling 5y agoWhen discussing US "culture", one usually has at least enough nuance to discern left from right ("us" vs "those idiots") in a population of 300 million. When discussing China, there is no distinction. All 1.4 billion people are the same.
- Dylan16807 5y agoThat's partly racist to assume name implies location. But being skeptical based on location and the academic culture in that combination of location and field is not racist.
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- agent327 5y agoCalling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it gets ignored by everyone.
- shusaku 5y agoCalling out a problem with Chinese research in general is fine. Asserting that an individual piece of research should be dismissed due to broader trends related to one’s race instead of evaluating it on its own merit is racist. And it’s even worse in this article where the comment refers to an unrelated article which has flaws that clearly don’t exist in this paper’s case (as such a study could not be a product of a paper mill). This fact should be obvious to anyone who has thought critically about the fundamental reason why racism is wrong for more than five minutes.
- prepend 5y agoI think this is more like branding. When University of Phoenix was around, it had a bad brand. I wouldn’t spend much time thinking about papers written by UoP people because so many were trash. It’s possible some were good. When it comes to academic research, China is the University of Phoenix. That’s not racism, it’s bad brand reputation.
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- freetinker 5y agoYou just defined racism.
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- prepend 5y agoCountries aren’t races. This is a problem unique to China, not Chinese people. Other countries in East and South Asia don’t have this problem. ABC is the US don’t have this problem. Non-Chinese at Chinese institutions share this problem. I don’t think the issue is based on race at all, but based on bad decisions made by the CCP and the cultural impact of those decisions. Is it racist to say the University of Phoenix doesn’t produce reputable papers?
- atatatat 5y ago> Chinese people John Cena?