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This might happen after a few months along with much hilarity among all concerned: https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cbr.2019.3535.retract https://www.lie

This might happen after a few months along with much hilarity among all concerned: https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cbr.2019.3535.retract https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cbr.2019.3535.retract "Cancer Biotherapy and Radiopharmaceuticals officially retracts the paper entitled, “LncRNA SNHG16 Promotes Proliferation, Migration, and Invasion of Glioma Cells Through Regulating the miR-490/PCBP2 Axis,” by Fangen Kong, Yang Yan, Jinfeng Deng, Yaoli Zhu, Yingqin Li, Huiqing Li, and Yiping Wang (Cancer Biother Radiopharm. E-pub ahead of print 23 Jul 2020; doi: 10.1089/cbr.2019.3535) at the authors' request: “We apologized that we have found a serious problem in our paper. In fact, the Western blot experiment in our study was commissioned a third-party company for testing. In present, some peers have found that the company has forged experimental reports. After contacting the company, they were unable to provide the original images. We have checked and confirmed that the authenticity of the data provided by the company is problematic. In view of the problems in this paper, all the authors have discussed and agreed to withdraw the paper.” The journal publisher requested the name of the “third-party company,” to which the authors replied: “We apologize for our mistakes. Our so-called "the third party company", after further investigation, is actually not a company but an individual person. Due to the personal reasons, the previous experimental data were lost and the original raw data could not be provided. So we can not guarantee the authenticity of those data provided by that person. Some members are considering to repeat the experiment again, but we have no way to raise enough fund to repeat it. Hence after serious discussion, we decided to withdraw the manuscript. Again we apologize sincerely for your inconvenience."

FatalLogic 5y ago
It's an interesting story but there seems to be no connection to the OP. It's a different field, different researchers, from a different institution. What's the connection?
- yellow_lead 5y ago
  Seriously. I was looking for one myself. The only thing I can think of is that he noticed they both have Chinese names. Nice
  - mekkkkkk 5y ago
    I don't think they're referring to the nationality of the people involved, but rather the nationality of the institutions.
- shusaku 5y ago
  It drives me crazy how socially acceptable racism against Chinese people is on hacker news. In another thread I saw a top comment say about a paper “I won’t believe it until westerners reproduce it”. This despite several authors being based at US universities (but having Chinese names!)
  - incrudible 5y ago
    It is perfectly acceptable to call out flaws in US culture, why should it be different for China? What does race have to do with it? Do you see anyone claiming that Han people are genetically predisposed to forging research papers?
    - windsignaling 5y ago
      When discussing US "culture", one usually has at least enough nuance to discern left from right ("us" vs "those idiots") in a population of 300 million. When discussing China, there is no distinction. All 1.4 billion people are the same.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    That's partly racist to assume name implies location. But being skeptical based on location and the academic culture in that combination of location and field is not racist.
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  - agent327 5y ago
    Calling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it gets ignored by everyone.
    - shusaku 5y ago
      Calling out a problem with Chinese research in general is fine. Asserting that an individual piece of research should be dismissed due to broader trends related to one’s race instead of evaluating it on its own merit is racist. And it’s even worse in this article where the comment refers to an unrelated article which has flaws that clearly don’t exist in this paper’s case (as such a study could not be a product of a paper mill). This fact should be obvious to anyone who has thought critically about the fundamental reason why racism is wrong for more than five minutes.
wiz21c 5y ago
I wonder why there were "hilarity" : > Some members are considering to repeat the experiment again, but we have no way to raise enough fund to repeat it. That's really a sad situation...
jikbd 5y ago
Oh boy, how I hate that weasel word “problematic”. Every time I see it I know a load of bullshit is coming.
- FredPret 5y ago
  The more one thinks about that damn word the worse it gets. If something is problematic, the implication is that there is a “right” way, which we must all follow, and that way is determined by the speaker. It’s so childish.
brigandish 5y ago
The sheer number of fraudulent papers being produced in China, sadly, is affecting the trust in research coming from there[1]: > “The effect is devastating,” says Li, about the impacts on Chinese science. “The literature environment published in Chinese is already ruined, since hardly anyone believes them or references studies from them.” “Now this plague has eroded into the international medical journals,” he adds. The fact that people use paper mills also affects China’s reputation globally, says Futao Huang, a Chinese researcher working at Hiroshima University in Japan. Reputation and trust do matter, even in (what should be) objective disciplines with (what should be) reproducible experiments. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00733-5?error=cookies_not_supported&code=9597def1-08b2-4348-bce7-c9b4f4c48e7b https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00733-5?error=coo...
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FatalLogic 5y ago

It's an interesting story but there seems to be no connection to the OP. It's a different field, different researchers, from a different institution. What's the connection?

yellow_lead 5y ago
Seriously. I was looking for one myself. The only thing I can think of is that he noticed they both have Chinese names. Nice
- mekkkkkk 5y ago
  I don't think they're referring to the nationality of the people involved, but rather the nationality of the institutions.
shusaku 5y ago
It drives me crazy how socially acceptable racism against Chinese people is on hacker news. In another thread I saw a top comment say about a paper “I won’t believe it until westerners reproduce it”. This despite several authors being based at US universities (but having Chinese names!)
- incrudible 5y ago
  It is perfectly acceptable to call out flaws in US culture, why should it be different for China? What does race have to do with it? Do you see anyone claiming that Han people are genetically predisposed to forging research papers?
  - windsignaling 5y ago
    When discussing US "culture", one usually has at least enough nuance to discern left from right ("us" vs "those idiots") in a population of 300 million. When discussing China, there is no distinction. All 1.4 billion people are the same.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  That's partly racist to assume name implies location. But being skeptical based on location and the academic culture in that combination of location and field is not racist.
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- agent327 5y ago
  Calling out a common problem with Chinese research is not racism. There is a real problem here, and it needs to be called out and fixed. That won't happen if it gets ignored by everyone.
  - shusaku 5y ago
    Calling out a problem with Chinese research in general is fine. Asserting that an individual piece of research should be dismissed due to broader trends related to one’s race instead of evaluating it on its own merit is racist. And it’s even worse in this article where the comment refers to an unrelated article which has flaws that clearly don’t exist in this paper’s case (as such a study could not be a product of a paper mill). This fact should be obvious to anyone who has thought critically about the fundamental reason why racism is wrong for more than five minutes.

wiz21c 5y ago

I wonder why there were "hilarity" : > Some members are considering to repeat the experiment again, but we have no way to raise enough fund to repeat it. That's really a sad situation...

jikbd 5y ago

Oh boy, how I hate that weasel word “problematic”. Every time I see it I know a load of bullshit is coming.

FredPret 5y ago
The more one thinks about that damn word the worse it gets. If something is problematic, the implication is that there is a “right” way, which we must all follow, and that way is determined by the speaker. It’s so childish.

brigandish 5y ago

The sheer number of fraudulent papers being produced in China, sadly, is affecting the trust in research coming from there[1]: > “The effect is devastating,” says Li, about the impacts on Chinese science. “The literature environment published in Chinese is already ruined, since hardly anyone believes them or references studies from them.” “Now this plague has eroded into the international medical journals,” he adds. The fact that people use paper mills also affects China’s reputation globally, says Futao Huang, a Chinese researcher working at Hiroshima University in Japan. Reputation and trust do matter, even in (what should be) objective disciplines with (what should be) reproducible experiments. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00733-5?error=cookies_not_supported&code=9597def1-08b2-4348-bce7-c9b4f4c48e7b https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00733-5?error=coo...

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