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> 'oh yeah, sorry. I'll try not to do it again. My bad.' This definitely should be sufficient. But hey, we are not living in that time anymore. Public condemn

> 'oh yeah, sorry. I'll try not to do it again. My bad.' This definitely should be sufficient. But hey, we are not living in that time anymore. Public condemnation is the new normal. And a response with public self-condemnation is expected from the mob. "I'm sorry" and "I apologize" is no longer sufficient. You need to go deeper and expose the evil in your soul, and condemn your self and your conspirators, and devote you will be a new person. You might get a chance.

donw 5y ago
The promise is "apologize and this will all go away". That's a lie. Never does. Depending on where you work, you may or may not be totally screwed, but apologizing when you have done nothing wrong changes bupkis. Why give the bullies what they want? Stand your ground: - You can cordially invite the mob to go fuck itself. Or, for a less confrontational approach: - You can ignore the mob and proceed as normal for a few months until they find somebody else to hate. It's going to be a ride either way, but these bullying tactics work only because people cave. It's a trial by fire. The people that don't tend to end up more successful afterwards, and with the added benefit of knowing who their true friends really are. A couple of important points: - You need to commit. If you later on back down, you are done like a cheap steak. The bullies know they own you at that point. Yes, this means you might be fired, or kicked out of your university. Might get your house torched. You're going to lose "friends". Improvise, adapt, and overcome. - These bullies want to provoke you to violence on their terms. Don't. Especially if you're the fighting type: don't take that bait. Pretty sure Sun Tzu didn't write, "Fight precisely when the enemy wants to battle."
- temp8964 5y ago
  People do something shitty all the time, like literally all the time. But public condemnation is the new normal. But nothing you do will prevent that from happening. Mob is just being mob. The mob mentality is spreading like a disease.
  - donw 5y ago
    You know what? You're right. Deleted that bullet point.
Aeolun 5y ago
The problem is that an apology should not contain a ‘but…’
- temp8964 5y ago
  A self-condemnation should not contain a ‘but…’.
- listless 5y ago
  Unless the situation is nuanced. Which is pretty much all the time. “Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance.”

donw 5y ago

The promise is "apologize and this will all go away". That's a lie. Never does. Depending on where you work, you may or may not be totally screwed, but apologizing when you have done nothing wrong changes bupkis. Why give the bullies what they want? Stand your ground: - You can cordially invite the mob to go fuck itself. Or, for a less confrontational approach: - You can ignore the mob and proceed as normal for a few months until they find somebody else to hate. It's going to be a ride either way, but these bullying tactics work only because people cave. It's a trial by fire. The people that don't tend to end up more successful afterwards, and with the added benefit of knowing who their true friends really are. A couple of important points: - You need to commit. If you later on back down, you are done like a cheap steak. The bullies know they own you at that point. Yes, this means you might be fired, or kicked out of your university. Might get your house torched. You're going to lose "friends". Improvise, adapt, and overcome. - These bullies want to provoke you to violence on their terms. Don't. Especially if you're the fighting type: don't take that bait. Pretty sure Sun Tzu didn't write, "Fight precisely when the enemy wants to battle."

temp8964 5y ago
People do something shitty all the time, like literally all the time. But public condemnation is the new normal. But nothing you do will prevent that from happening. Mob is just being mob. The mob mentality is spreading like a disease.
- donw 5y ago
  You know what? You're right. Deleted that bullet point.

Aeolun 5y ago

The problem is that an apology should not contain a ‘but…’

temp8964 5y ago
A self-condemnation should not contain a ‘but…’.
listless 5y ago
Unless the situation is nuanced. Which is pretty much all the time. “Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance.”