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My Mom said it to me with simpler terms when i was little... "we only have laws because of the assholes"
by taf2 5y ago
My Mom said it to me with simpler terms when i was little... "we only have laws because of the assholes"
- sarkron 5y agoPlato put it like this in his "Laws": “Laws are made to instruct the good, and in the hope that there may be no need of them; also to control the bad, whose hardness of heart will not be hindered from crime.”
- chmsky00 5y agoI wonder how he’d speak of a supposedly even better educated society stealing the future of the next due to circular validation of our waste filled industrialism.
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoGiven that most Greeks of that era believed they lived after the decline of a golden age, I suspect he might be be more understanding than most people today.
- beepbooptheory 5y agoIn fact, Plato himself lived through a ruthless and bloody revolution that killed his friends and ended in the reign of the 14 tyrants!
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- munk-a 5y agoPlato at the Googleplex might be of interest to you - it's got its rough points but it brings a lot of his philosophy forward to be more relatable.
- B1FF_PSUVM 5y ago> stealing the future of the next How would the next generation like having a pristine Earth, without any infrastructure whatsoever? No roads, no buildings, no domesticated animals, no libraries, nothing but nature. No pyramids, no poems, all the oil and coal in the ground, "noble savages" all around.
- smokey_circles 5y agoI mean, I guess you could say the pyramids were built with green energy. It's a strange twist on slavery, but creative.
- hutzlibu 5y agoBut note that "good" is quite relative here, as for Plato good laws also meant, keeping the slaves down in their place by law.
- Ancapistani 5y agoWhich assholes? The ones that passed them, or the ones that did something stupid to prompt them? (I like this statement!)
- koonsolo 5y agoSame with contracts: you only need them when things go bad.
- hodgesrm 5y agoThat's not entirely true. Contracts ensure you agree on important stuff up front when it's easy to do so and that you don't forget anything obvious.
- listless 5y agoWait - does that mean it’s the assholes who make the laws or are they the ones we create laws for? Or does it work both ways?! Your moms super profound.
- hulitu 5y agoBoth ways.
- georgyo 5y agoYour mom's saying has a lot of wisdom because it works in multiple ways. Either the law was needed because someone did something that needed to not happen again. Or the law was not needed or even unwanted but was created by an unjust person(s) or politicians. And that covers all laws. I'm going to use this quote.