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Nothing of value was lost
by RedShift1 5y ago
Nothing of value was lost
- ozfive 5y agoThis cannot be said enough.
- blowski 5y agoOn the contrary, it's said far too much. Facebook is extremely valuable for a lot of people. I dislike Facebook as much as most people on here, but saying "it's totally pointless" is silly and it's not surprising that those who say it are ignored by those who use Facebook.
- rawoke083600 5y agoNever underestimate software that is 'just good enough'
- belter 5y agoIn what ways is Facebook "extremely valuable for a lot of people"?
- can16358p 5y agoCommunication for many out there. Many will be just fine without commenting on cat photos or bragging with their likes or followers. Many will be in trouble if they use WhatsApp/Instagram/Messenger/Marketplace to do business and any important communication.
- blowski 5y ago* A friend of mine runs a posh burger van that moves around a lot, and he puts "today's location" on Facebook. * My wife talks with her family in Brazil through Facebook, sharing photos * My Church receives a lot of help requests from people in trouble through Facebook * Some abuse charities talk give support to victims through Facebook etc You could argue that it would be nice if there were alternatives, or that these organisations shouldn't be using Facebook at all. Sign me up for your campaign, I agree with you. But if you say "Facebook has no value" then you will never understand the value proposition you need to offer in order to kill Facebook.
- Graffur 5y agoI have many connections to people I met travelling. While not friends that I talk to often, the connections are still valuable.
- DarkmSparks 5y agolots of people are heroin dependant, the number of people hooked doesn't make it right. At the very least you are going to need a better arguments than that following the recent data dump.
- finolex1 5y agoI get that this in jest, but a lot of people rely on Whatsapp and FB Messenger for messaging.
- simlevesque 5y agoInstagram messaging is also very popular, at least around me.
- m-chrzan 5y agoA lot of people, out of habit, rely on high fructose corn syrup for calories.
- drcongo 5y agoQuite a lot of people rely on heroin to get through the day too.
- parthdesai 5y agoYou do know that whatsapp is literally used by small businesses in 3rd world to conduct....business right?
- rubyist5eva 5y agoFacebook doesn't care.
- aaomidi 5y agoHave you considered that any change done is going to mean winners and losers. If Facebook permanently goes down then those businesses would move to a different platform. Would it suck? Probably. Would the world be a better place without Facebook? A ton of people think so. Me included. This is the same argument people have used when we talk about health insurance in the US being scammy. If we ever decided to address it it means a good chunk of people lose their jobs but also means that the health of this country goes up. Which one is more important?
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- solmag 5y agoIt is a good start.
- subsaharancoder 5y agoA lot of people, many of them home based businesses, also rely on FB Marketplace as a primary source of income.
- walrus01 5y agofor one example of this look at certain ethnic food catering/delivery services that exist in many major cities and operate almost exclusively on facebook.
- tantalor 5y agoThat's terrifying.
- pixelgeek 5y agoThey have to go where their market is sadly
- subsaharancoder 5y agoMany people don't realize that with the 2020 lockdown and next to zero face to face transactions happening, platforms like FB Marketplace provided an opportunity for many people to set up businesses and generate income. I understand the angst people have with FB, but there's a bigger world out there beyond our keyboards.
- madeofpalk 5y agoI can't message my friends on whatsapp :(
- heywherelogingo 5y agoSeize the moment - switch to signal.
- madeofpalk 5y agoIs Signal not equally centralised, and thus susceptible to the exact same problem as this?
- CodeGlitch 5y agoYes it is. Alternatives beyond signal that normies can use: Email. Spread the word!
- _-david-_ 5y agoDoesn't help when everyone just uses Gmail.
- sneak 5y agoWrite a blog post teaching them how to stop: https://sneak.berlin/20201029/stop-emailing-like-a-rube/ https://sneak.berlin/20201029/stop-emailing-like-a-rube/
- _-david-_ 5y agoConvincing somebody who can hardly turn on their computer to get their own domain is just not practical. Even if they can get their own domain they still have to set up DNS. Good luck getting them to set up MX, spf and dkim. I think things would be better if more people had their own domain. I just don't see any way of making it happen. I can't get my own family to leave gmail even with me handling all the domain stuff for them. Even my technical coworkers who are capable of this don't care.
- johnwheeler 5y agomuch value was gained!
- belter 5y agoI felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced....Finally!
- can16358p 5y agoJust because a company has questionable or even straight evil business practices doesn't mean that literally millions of companies/people don't rely on them to do business and communicate.
- mattfrommars 5y agoFacebook bashing is getting old. It's 2021, dammit.
- zthrowaway 5y agoAnd every year it makes the world worse.
- mcheung610 5y agoBut positive social value was gained
- winter_blue 5y agoWell, I know you jest, but a lot of conversations, with many people, over years and years would be lost. It'd be akin to hundreds of email threads with friends being deleted.