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So i researched your claim, i found a twitter thread and a Greenwald post supporting you, but with no data (i did not find the 70% returns/year averages) and th

by orwin 5y ago

So i researched your claim, i found a twitter thread and a Greenwald post supporting you, but with no data (i did not find the 70% returns/year averages) and then i found this[0] that explain how well her husband ran during the pandemic (TBF he ran as well as i did, 40% returns, better than when i was playing online poker, with a lot less time invested). In any case, this is distasteful and gross. Every bill should have an estimated impact on publicly traded companies, and politicians with stocks should be forbidden to discuss/mediate the bill, and only vote on it. [1]" https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2021/10/01/flexispot-comhar-adjustable-standing-desk-review-on-sale/?sh=1959522d294a https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2021/10...

solveit 5y ago
> Every bill should have an estimated impact on publicly traded companies I don't think this is feasible. > and politicians with stocks should be forbidden to discuss/mediate the bill, and only vote on it. But I'll go one further on this. No person holding public office above a certain level should be allowed to trade individual stocks. Either buy broad-market indices or have a third-party invest for you without your knowledge on specifics.
- IAmGraydon 5y ago
  Policy can move broad market ETFs just as much as individual stocks.
  - raziel2701 5y ago
    It's the type of imperfect solution we need. Currently Senator Manchin is holding up the infrastructure bill because its plans to combat the climate crisis will impact his million-dollar investments in the coal and energy industries [1]. These people should not be allowed to hold any kind of private or public stock other than ETFs of the S&P 500 index. This way you remove the conflict of interest in favoring one sector/company over another and instead if they want to make money through the market they can do so by helping the overall economy instead. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joe-manchin-half-million-year-coal-stocks-climate-crisis-2021-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joe-manchin-half-mil...
    - sokoloff 5y ago
      Even the S&P500 isn’t free from policy implications. For one, it would lead you to policies that favor large, incumbent companies over small cap and private companies. (It would also be infeasible to mandate the divestiture of small, closely-held family businesses in order to hold office.)
      - wbl 5y ago
        Tell that to Jimmy Carter.
        sokoloff 5y ago
        He placed the farm into a trust rather than divesting ownership. I’m fine with that as a much more practical solution to (most of) the problem here. He eventually sold it but only after leaving the Presidency (in large part because it was then under crushing debt, having been run by “not the people who knew and cared about the business”.) I’d rather have us have politicians who are “like us” (who might have an LLC with a rental property in it, who own a pizza shop/dry cleaner/corner bodega, a consulting shop, etc.) than to restrict politics only to those with nothing to lose or so much to lose that if they lose some in a quest for power, it’s OK. I don’t want to shut small businesspeople out because they’ll lose everything they’ve worked to build. We need people in government who know what it’s like to have to work to make payroll and to sign paychecks on the front.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    Blind trusts are used in these cases.
fnord77 5y ago
How did you manage 40% returns, if I may ask.
- orwin 5y ago
  Luck, and small capital. I only invested what i could loose, i estimated that to be 5000€, bought LVMH and Amazon stock at the right time (this was not really luck), and sold it at the right time too (this was luck). Got 6900€ in less than a year. Reinvested in in index fund, less hassle and time looking at a trading app (although loosing it all would not impact me, i might have a weird brain imbalance and this was not healthy).

by orwin 5y ago

solveit 5y ago

> Every bill should have an estimated impact on publicly traded companies I don't think this is feasible. > and politicians with stocks should be forbidden to discuss/mediate the bill, and only vote on it. But I'll go one further on this. No person holding public office above a certain level should be allowed to trade individual stocks. Either buy broad-market indices or have a third-party invest for you without your knowledge on specifics.

IAmGraydon 5y ago
Policy can move broad market ETFs just as much as individual stocks.
- raziel2701 5y ago
  It's the type of imperfect solution we need. Currently Senator Manchin is holding up the infrastructure bill because its plans to combat the climate crisis will impact his million-dollar investments in the coal and energy industries [1]. These people should not be allowed to hold any kind of private or public stock other than ETFs of the S&P 500 index. This way you remove the conflict of interest in favoring one sector/company over another and instead if they want to make money through the market they can do so by helping the overall economy instead. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joe-manchin-half-million-year-coal-stocks-climate-crisis-2021-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joe-manchin-half-mil...
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    Even the S&P500 isn’t free from policy implications. For one, it would lead you to policies that favor large, incumbent companies over small cap and private companies. (It would also be infeasible to mandate the divestiture of small, closely-held family businesses in order to hold office.)
    - wbl 5y ago
      Tell that to Jimmy Carter.
      - sokoloff 5y ago
        He placed the farm into a trust rather than divesting ownership. I’m fine with that as a much more practical solution to (most of) the problem here. He eventually sold it but only after leaving the Presidency (in large part because it was then under crushing debt, having been run by “not the people who knew and cared about the business”.) I’d rather have us have politicians who are “like us” (who might have an LLC with a rental property in it, who own a pizza shop/dry cleaner/corner bodega, a consulting shop, etc.) than to restrict politics only to those with nothing to lose or so much to lose that if they lose some in a quest for power, it’s OK. I don’t want to shut small businesspeople out because they’ll lose everything they’ve worked to build. We need people in government who know what it’s like to have to work to make payroll and to sign paychecks on the front.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Blind trusts are used in these cases.

fnord77 5y ago

How did you manage 40% returns, if I may ask.

orwin 5y ago
Luck, and small capital. I only invested what i could loose, i estimated that to be 5000€, bought LVMH and Amazon stock at the right time (this was not really luck), and sold it at the right time too (this was luck). Got 6900€ in less than a year. Reinvested in in index fund, less hassle and time looking at a trading app (although loosing it all would not impact me, i might have a weird brain imbalance and this was not healthy).