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If it’s not N95 it won’t be blocking out P2.5 particulates emitted from exhausts.

by monological 5y ago

lambdaba 5y ago
And if it is, you'll have a much harder time breathing.
- krastanov 5y ago
  I have been wearing N95 when biking in the city for a year now. It is great, it is not difficult to breath at all (I am really incredulous at people making that claim), and it provides a measurable difference in the air I breath (a nasty but efficient way to measure that is looking at your snot if you bike while having a cold).
  - lambdaba 5y ago
    Thank you, I was repeating something I've heard, I do recall trying such a mask before covid in summer and finding it a bit uncomfortable, but maybe it varies. I'm quite interested in better breathing when riding my bike when air quality ocassionaly drops so I'll give it a try!
    - krastanov 5y ago
      In the particularly hot months I have had to use small piece of cloth under the mask so I can remove it after my commute and not have a humid mask on my face, but that was the only issue I had. Even with the extra cloth I did not have trouble breathing (I specifically try to not exert too much effort when commuting on a bike because the sweat on my back would be a much worse source of discomfort than the mask)
scrose 5y ago
I wear KN95 masks, but I’m not breaking down the level of particulate matter that gets filtered for science. I’m saying I don’t get asthma attacks or sprayed by debris when I keep pace in traffic with a mask on.
seanmcdirmid 5y ago
The masks they recommend in China are the N95 ones with valves that are banned in the west. My guess why is because they have to contend with both a pandemic and high pollution levels.
- aulin 5y ago
  not sure if they're banned or not, they're not recommended because the valve lets you exhale unfiltered air, which is rather pointless for covid protection. For particulate filtering they're perfect though.
  - seanmcdirmid 5y ago
    They are banned on planes and such. You can’t even really layer them since the second mask under would break the seal. The theories on mask wearing are different there and here, or perhaps there is just more flexibility. Since China has such a low infection rate, the difference between an in-coming or out-going filter probably isn’t going to matter much.
  - jerlam 5y ago
    Recent studies show that valved respirators are actually better than or equivalent to surgical and cloth masks for source control: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2021-107/default.html https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2021-107/default.html However, the "valves bad" mantra has been repeated so long and so strongly that it is unlikely there will be any official guideline change.
cameldrv 5y ago
Any mask will filter PM2.5 to some level. N95 is just more effective than some (but less than others)

If it’s not N95 it won’t be blocking out P2.5 particulates emitted from exhausts.

lambdaba 5y ago

And if it is, you'll have a much harder time breathing.

krastanov 5y ago
I have been wearing N95 when biking in the city for a year now. It is great, it is not difficult to breath at all (I am really incredulous at people making that claim), and it provides a measurable difference in the air I breath (a nasty but efficient way to measure that is looking at your snot if you bike while having a cold).
- lambdaba 5y ago
  Thank you, I was repeating something I've heard, I do recall trying such a mask before covid in summer and finding it a bit uncomfortable, but maybe it varies. I'm quite interested in better breathing when riding my bike when air quality ocassionaly drops so I'll give it a try!
  - krastanov 5y ago
    In the particularly hot months I have had to use small piece of cloth under the mask so I can remove it after my commute and not have a humid mask on my face, but that was the only issue I had. Even with the extra cloth I did not have trouble breathing (I specifically try to not exert too much effort when commuting on a bike because the sweat on my back would be a much worse source of discomfort than the mask)

scrose 5y ago

I wear KN95 masks, but I’m not breaking down the level of particulate matter that gets filtered for science. I’m saying I don’t get asthma attacks or sprayed by debris when I keep pace in traffic with a mask on.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago

The masks they recommend in China are the N95 ones with valves that are banned in the west. My guess why is because they have to contend with both a pandemic and high pollution levels.

aulin 5y ago
not sure if they're banned or not, they're not recommended because the valve lets you exhale unfiltered air, which is rather pointless for covid protection. For particulate filtering they're perfect though.
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  They are banned on planes and such. You can’t even really layer them since the second mask under would break the seal. The theories on mask wearing are different there and here, or perhaps there is just more flexibility. Since China has such a low infection rate, the difference between an in-coming or out-going filter probably isn’t going to matter much.
- jerlam 5y ago
  Recent studies show that valved respirators are actually better than or equivalent to surgical and cloth masks for source control: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2021-107/default.html https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2021-107/default.html However, the "valves bad" mantra has been repeated so long and so strongly that it is unlikely there will be any official guideline change.

cameldrv 5y ago

Any mask will filter PM2.5 to some level. N95 is just more effective than some (but less than others)