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> Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s founder and chief executive, has argued that only companies as large as Facebook have the resources to fight misinformation, elect

> Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s founder and chief executive, has argued that only companies as large as Facebook have the resources to fight misinformation, election meddling and harmful content. Look, they’re not a propaganda machine! I’m so thankful we have them to “fight” against “misinformation”. I read that and my blood began to boil. Evil is the perfect description of such disgusting, deceitful pandering.

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user3939382 5y ago
We should stop using the term misinformation and call it untruth. This deobfuscates what’s really happening, which is that: Extreme wealth and power has caused some self-appointed Deciders of Truth to band together and decide that anyone who does not pledge allegiance to anything they decide is true will be cast out of society as much as practically possible. I remember reading Plato’s The Republic when I was young and coming away with the impression that arriving at the nature of truth was very complicated and nuanced. Apparently these tech CEOs and their buddies in government have decided to simplify everything for us proles.
- ViViDboarder 5y ago
  Do you really believe there is no such thing as a lie? I don’t want to trust Facebook as an arbiter of anything because their motivations do not align with anything other than personal profit, but people do completely fabricate things and present them as true.
  - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
    There's such a thing as a lie, but "misinformation" isn't a synonym for "lie". Efforts to fight misinformation are almost always understood to encompass misleading information - that is, information that's literally true but is used to advance an argument the misinformation checker doesn't think is valid.
    - Dracophoenix 5y ago
      The problem still remains as to who gets to determine what constitutes "misleading".
  - user3939382 5y ago
    At least with COVID, one day the same idea can be “misinformation” and the next it’s a blessed fact from the Deciders of Truth. Originally it was misinformation that masks protected you from COVID. So no it’s not as simple as a “lie”.
- newswasboring 5y ago
  > We should stop using the term misinformation and call it untruth Or just call it what it is. Lies.
- sofixa 5y ago
  I think the difference between untruth and misinformation is the intent. The latter is on purpose in order to shape a narrative and mislead people. Misinformation is Trump and related people claiming the election was stolen from him - it's blatantly untrue, easily debunkable, and there's an obvious interest there. (I'm not american, just an easy example that came to me)
MadeThisToReply 5y ago
Facebook thinks it's the company to "fight election meddling"? Is this the same Facebook that meddled in the 2020 US presidential election by suppressing the distribution of a factual news story because the facts were embarrassing to the Biden campaign? What next, is Bill Cosby going to tell us that he's an activist for women's rights?
- laurent92 5y ago
  Here is an alternative take on Bill Cosby’s culpability, it may revert your opinion: https://youtu.be/QQXZ6752EiY https://youtu.be/QQXZ6752EiY
  - mandmandam 5y ago
    The talk of 'red-pilling' and 'those women knew what they were getting into' in the comments give me heebie-jeebies. Care to summarize the main points for me?
  - barneygale 5y ago
    I wonder what your YouTube recommendations look like, could you share a cropped screenshot?
- flerchin 5y ago
  I like how you don't mention the specifics, so that folks outside of your echo chamber won't know what you're talking about. Clearly the specifics don't even matter, just the general truthiness of your tone. This is perfect Colbert.
  - dgfitz 5y ago
    I would guess they’re talking about the Hunter Biden laptop thing and how it was recently “confirmed” by I think politico. I’m not going to bother googling it for you, just for the edification of everyone else reading your comment and GPS comment.
- newswasboring 5y ago

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user3939382 5y ago

We should stop using the term misinformation and call it untruth. This deobfuscates what’s really happening, which is that: Extreme wealth and power has caused some self-appointed Deciders of Truth to band together and decide that anyone who does not pledge allegiance to anything they decide is true will be cast out of society as much as practically possible. I remember reading Plato’s The Republic when I was young and coming away with the impression that arriving at the nature of truth was very complicated and nuanced. Apparently these tech CEOs and their buddies in government have decided to simplify everything for us proles.

ViViDboarder 5y ago
Do you really believe there is no such thing as a lie? I don’t want to trust Facebook as an arbiter of anything because their motivations do not align with anything other than personal profit, but people do completely fabricate things and present them as true.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  There's such a thing as a lie, but "misinformation" isn't a synonym for "lie". Efforts to fight misinformation are almost always understood to encompass misleading information - that is, information that's literally true but is used to advance an argument the misinformation checker doesn't think is valid.
  - Dracophoenix 5y ago
    The problem still remains as to who gets to determine what constitutes "misleading".
- user3939382 5y ago
  At least with COVID, one day the same idea can be “misinformation” and the next it’s a blessed fact from the Deciders of Truth. Originally it was misinformation that masks protected you from COVID. So no it’s not as simple as a “lie”.
newswasboring 5y ago
> We should stop using the term misinformation and call it untruth Or just call it what it is. Lies.
sofixa 5y ago
I think the difference between untruth and misinformation is the intent. The latter is on purpose in order to shape a narrative and mislead people. Misinformation is Trump and related people claiming the election was stolen from him - it's blatantly untrue, easily debunkable, and there's an obvious interest there. (I'm not american, just an easy example that came to me)

MadeThisToReply 5y ago

Facebook thinks it's the company to "fight election meddling"? Is this the same Facebook that meddled in the 2020 US presidential election by suppressing the distribution of a factual news story because the facts were embarrassing to the Biden campaign? What next, is Bill Cosby going to tell us that he's an activist for women's rights?

laurent92 5y ago
Here is an alternative take on Bill Cosby’s culpability, it may revert your opinion: https://youtu.be/QQXZ6752EiY https://youtu.be/QQXZ6752EiY
- mandmandam 5y ago
  The talk of 'red-pilling' and 'those women knew what they were getting into' in the comments give me heebie-jeebies. Care to summarize the main points for me?
- barneygale 5y ago
  I wonder what your YouTube recommendations look like, could you share a cropped screenshot?
flerchin 5y ago
I like how you don't mention the specifics, so that folks outside of your echo chamber won't know what you're talking about. Clearly the specifics don't even matter, just the general truthiness of your tone. This is perfect Colbert.
- dgfitz 5y ago
  I would guess they’re talking about the Hunter Biden laptop thing and how it was recently “confirmed” by I think politico. I’m not going to bother googling it for you, just for the edification of everyone else reading your comment and GPS comment.
newswasboring 5y ago