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I would not mind a coffee shop that pulls down flyers, but I would mind a coffee shop that doesn't serve coffee to people it doesn't like. I feel very frustrat

I would not mind a coffee shop that pulls down flyers, but I would mind a coffee shop that doesn't serve coffee to people it doesn't like. I feel very frustrated by this because to me this is essentially the case of that religious baker refusing to make a gay wedding cake, except here we have a big company refusing to serve some people because it doesn't like what they have to say. I would not require twitter to server anybody coffee though.

anoonmoose 5y ago
It sounds like you would like to add "political belief or opinion" to the list of classes protected under the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Have you considered the full ramifications of this position?
- poszlem 5y ago
  Yes, I very much would like to live in a world where people are not treated unfairly because of perfectly LEGAL speech they made on a random topic, while doing it on what's essentially a public square of the 2021.
  - _zn02 5y ago
    See, that statement makes me think you haven't fully considered the ramifications of this decision. If a dude wearing full Hugo Boss Nazi regalia walks into my private establishment, I should not have to serve him, and I refuse to respect the idea of serving him. You can argue that Twitter is different because it's bigger, but if there's only one bar in town I don't see a substantial different between these two acts; I just don't see the size of Twitter as especially important to this. What I'm saying here mostly is- I really don't think you want to add "political belief or opinion" as a protected class. That means not being able to fire someone for expressing racist opinions, that means not being able to ban gang colors from a club, it really has a very far reaching effect. What you probably want to do is socialize Twitter. Same effect (they are treated as a public entity, and can only punish you for illegal content) but without a bunch of insane restrictions on my own personal Freedom of Association (you remember that part of the Bill of Right, not just the Freedom of Speech parts, right?)
- silicon2401 5y ago
  This, to me, used to be implicitly included under freedom of speech. Might as well make it explicit.
  - _zn02 5y ago
    You were always allowed to kick Nazis out of your bar, it's just that now the bar is extremely easy to get to from your home

anoonmoose 5y ago

It sounds like you would like to add "political belief or opinion" to the list of classes protected under the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Have you considered the full ramifications of this position?

poszlem 5y ago
Yes, I very much would like to live in a world where people are not treated unfairly because of perfectly LEGAL speech they made on a random topic, while doing it on what's essentially a public square of the 2021.
- _zn02 5y ago
  See, that statement makes me think you haven't fully considered the ramifications of this decision. If a dude wearing full Hugo Boss Nazi regalia walks into my private establishment, I should not have to serve him, and I refuse to respect the idea of serving him. You can argue that Twitter is different because it's bigger, but if there's only one bar in town I don't see a substantial different between these two acts; I just don't see the size of Twitter as especially important to this. What I'm saying here mostly is- I really don't think you want to add "political belief or opinion" as a protected class. That means not being able to fire someone for expressing racist opinions, that means not being able to ban gang colors from a club, it really has a very far reaching effect. What you probably want to do is socialize Twitter. Same effect (they are treated as a public entity, and can only punish you for illegal content) but without a bunch of insane restrictions on my own personal Freedom of Association (you remember that part of the Bill of Right, not just the Freedom of Speech parts, right?)
silicon2401 5y ago
This, to me, used to be implicitly included under freedom of speech. Might as well make it explicit.
- _zn02 5y ago
  You were always allowed to kick Nazis out of your bar, it's just that now the bar is extremely easy to get to from your home