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> Why wouldn’t this article mention the Black American content as well? Certainly this is newsworthy, given the crucial implication here: I can think of a few

> Why wouldn’t this article mention the Black American content as well? Certainly this is newsworthy, given the crucial implication here: I can think of a few reasons. 1. The linked website is focused on issues related to religion. 2. The number of people who identify as Christian in the US is likely far greater than the number of people who identify as black activists. 3. Only one of those groups helped elect a Russian asset as president of the US.

giancarlostoro 5y ago
> 3 Only one of those groups helped elect a Russian asset I dont usually care for politics but nobody has given me any convincing arguments on the matter. I have seen Russia gain more with Biden shutting down the pipeline. If someone is colluding with you what have they gained thus far? I just don’t see it at all. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-lawyer-clinton-campaign-law-firm-pleads-not-guilty-charge-trump-russia-probe-2021-09-17/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-lawyer-clinton-campaign-...
- kadoban 5y ago
  Off the top of my head: Weakening of the US's power in the world. Weaker NATO and EU. Weak/delayed sanctions as a result of Crimea and no other action. Worsening of US/Iran relations, keeping Iran close to Russia. Left Syria to Russia. Ongoing influence in the Republican party, which is now pretty much officially pro-Russia. Edit: this seems like a pretty good list: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia...
  - tzs 5y ago
    Withdrew US from the Treaty on Open Skies [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies
  - giancarlostoro 5y ago
    I don't think our power is any weaker if you're talking about military power. Is the perception around the world about America different? Sure, but we're definitely nowhere near weaker, although now the Taliban has some high tech equipment, let's hope they don't figure out how to maintain and recreate any of it.
    - kadoban 5y ago
      I was mainly talking about soft power and our alliances. I'd say we are worse off militarily though, in a relative sense as other powers are rising, eg NK has nukes, China is flexing its muscle _much_ more, Russia's position is better, Iran is largely unchecked. Our military and weapons development strategy is showing its weaknesses as well though. When exactly is the last thing we actually "won" ? How many places did we spend years/decades with our thumb up our ass, while bleeding lives and money?
- 1234letshaveatw 5y ago
  Exactly. It is quite evident at this point that "Russia Russia Russia" was a bought and paid for disinformation campaign

giancarlostoro 5y ago

> 3 Only one of those groups helped elect a Russian asset I dont usually care for politics but nobody has given me any convincing arguments on the matter. I have seen Russia gain more with Biden shutting down the pipeline. If someone is colluding with you what have they gained thus far? I just don’t see it at all. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-lawyer-clinton-campaign-law-firm-pleads-not-guilty-charge-trump-russia-probe-2021-09-17/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-lawyer-clinton-campaign-...

kadoban 5y ago
Off the top of my head: Weakening of the US's power in the world. Weaker NATO and EU. Weak/delayed sanctions as a result of Crimea and no other action. Worsening of US/Iran relations, keeping Iran close to Russia. Left Syria to Russia. Ongoing influence in the Republican party, which is now pretty much officially pro-Russia. Edit: this seems like a pretty good list: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia...
- tzs 5y ago
  Withdrew US from the Treaty on Open Skies [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies
- giancarlostoro 5y ago
  I don't think our power is any weaker if you're talking about military power. Is the perception around the world about America different? Sure, but we're definitely nowhere near weaker, although now the Taliban has some high tech equipment, let's hope they don't figure out how to maintain and recreate any of it.
  - kadoban 5y ago
    I was mainly talking about soft power and our alliances. I'd say we are worse off militarily though, in a relative sense as other powers are rising, eg NK has nukes, China is flexing its muscle _much_ more, Russia's position is better, Iran is largely unchecked. Our military and weapons development strategy is showing its weaknesses as well though. When exactly is the last thing we actually "won" ? How many places did we spend years/decades with our thumb up our ass, while bleeding lives and money?
1234letshaveatw 5y ago
Exactly. It is quite evident at this point that "Russia Russia Russia" was a bought and paid for disinformation campaign