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Podman can replace docker desktop. It doesn't have the same GUI but it does have the capability to run containers via familiar CLI commands on a variety of OSes

by jonfw 5y ago

Podman can replace docker desktop. It doesn't have the same GUI but it does have the capability to run containers via familiar CLI commands on a variety of OSes, connecting to (and in some cases provisioning through podman machine) a VM when required I also think that it's more than safe to say that K8s is dropping Docker when they've deprecated it as a container runtime

benatkin 5y ago
You can also run regular docker with vagrant instead of Docker Desktop. This seems to be the way you can replace Docker Desktop with Podman: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/replace-docker-podman-macos https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/replace-docker-podman-macos There was Kitematic for Docker, I think it was independent, but it's owned by Docker now and they shut it down. https://github.com/docker/kitematic https://github.com/docker/kitematic
- nickstinemates 5y ago
  It evolved to become Docker Desktop
  - benatkin 5y ago
    No it didn't, Docker Desktop was already released before Docker bought Kitematic. I have receipts: https://www.zdnet.com/article/docker-reels-in-kitematic-as-it-hits-container-acquisition-trail-again/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/docker-reels-in-kitematic-as-i... (2015) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software) (Initial release: 2012) If you mean Docker Desktop added some features from Kitematic, that's a misleading way of saying it.
    - nickstinemates 5y ago
      Guess I don't know what I'm talking about
      - benatkin 5y ago
        Hmm, I can't find an official Docker installer for Mac that's older than this (2015-08-11), and it has Kitematic. Wikipedia date is for Docker in general. I stand corrected. https://github.com/docker-archive/toolbox/commit/a7e7a070ba9a83901f4de00022e61e7338f64761 https://github.com/docker-archive/toolbox/commit/a7e7a070ba9...
        nickstinemates 5y ago
        The kitematic peeps are wonderful, smart, and genuine people.
zapita 5y ago
> I also think that it's more than safe to say that K8s is dropping Docker when they've deprecated it as a container runtime This is wrong. Docker itself is no longer a container runtime: it has spun out that capability into containerd. Kubernetes can now call Docker’s container runtime (again: containerd) directly instead of going through a redundant docker-shim. In other words: Kubernetes has dropped Docker’s old container runtime in favor of… Docker’s new container runtime.
kkapelon 5y ago
Docker Desktop also includes a full Kubernetes distribution. It is actually the easiest way to get a local K8s cluster on Windows or Mac. Docker desktop also includes Docker-compose (a way to chain multiple docker container together) And of course the UI. Podman is just replacing the basic docker CLI. I would say that podman replaces about 20% of what Docker desktop offers.

by jonfw 5y ago

benatkin 5y ago

You can also run regular docker with vagrant instead of Docker Desktop. This seems to be the way you can replace Docker Desktop with Podman: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/replace-docker-podman-macos https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/replace-docker-podman-macos There was Kitematic for Docker, I think it was independent, but it's owned by Docker now and they shut it down. https://github.com/docker/kitematic https://github.com/docker/kitematic

nickstinemates 5y ago
It evolved to become Docker Desktop
- benatkin 5y ago
  No it didn't, Docker Desktop was already released before Docker bought Kitematic. I have receipts: https://www.zdnet.com/article/docker-reels-in-kitematic-as-it-hits-container-acquisition-trail-again/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/docker-reels-in-kitematic-as-i... (2015) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software) (Initial release: 2012) If you mean Docker Desktop added some features from Kitematic, that's a misleading way of saying it.
  - nickstinemates 5y ago
    Guess I don't know what I'm talking about
    - benatkin 5y ago
      Hmm, I can't find an official Docker installer for Mac that's older than this (2015-08-11), and it has Kitematic. Wikipedia date is for Docker in general. I stand corrected. https://github.com/docker-archive/toolbox/commit/a7e7a070ba9a83901f4de00022e61e7338f64761 https://github.com/docker-archive/toolbox/commit/a7e7a070ba9...
      - nickstinemates 5y ago
        The kitematic peeps are wonderful, smart, and genuine people.

zapita 5y ago

> I also think that it's more than safe to say that K8s is dropping Docker when they've deprecated it as a container runtime This is wrong. Docker itself is no longer a container runtime: it has spun out that capability into containerd. Kubernetes can now call Docker’s container runtime (again: containerd) directly instead of going through a redundant docker-shim. In other words: Kubernetes has dropped Docker’s old container runtime in favor of… Docker’s new container runtime.

kkapelon 5y ago

Docker Desktop also includes a full Kubernetes distribution. It is actually the easiest way to get a local K8s cluster on Windows or Mac. Docker desktop also includes Docker-compose (a way to chain multiple docker container together) And of course the UI. Podman is just replacing the basic docker CLI. I would say that podman replaces about 20% of what Docker desktop offers.