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Do you have any actual proof that this is used for data mining and not because it's an engaging, fun question?
by cinntaile 5y ago
Do you have any actual proof that this is used for data mining and not because it's an engaging, fun question?
- decremental 5y agoI think this misses the point. Even if what he said has never happened, your mind should be trained to never engage with things like that to begin with. The very first thing that should occur to you is "I'm about to upload a picture of my face on the internet. That's not a good idea. I won't do that." Same with entering personal information.
- _jal 5y agoThere are multiple "the point"s. Yes, teach your kid to be careful with their data. But also, how many outfits are actually doing this, or is this currently a theoretic concern? If people are doing this, what are their goals? Are they meeting them? Are there less obvious examples of the same thing? I'm sure you can keep going with more points.
- decremental 5y agoIf you just don't ever engage then even if the concern is not over a theoretical threat, you'll never have to worry either way. This isn't a "citation needed" kind of issue. "Do you have a source for it not being a good idea to provide personal information to strangers?" Bizarre.
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- handoflixue 5y agoWhy should I care, though? "What state are you from" seems like pretty innocuous information. I'll readily mention that I'm from Seattle if it's relevant to the conversation or asked directly, and I tend to think of myself as being on the more paranoid / pro-privacy side of things. All the big players already have my address because I gave it to them, and a stalker should be able to work that information out pretty easily because I post in the Seattle sub-reddit and otherwise engage a lot with Seattle topics.
- edoceo 5y ago> seems like pretty innocuous That's how they get you. It's a trap!
- handoflixue 5y agoYeah, but... what actually IS the trap? What bad thing happens because of this?
- Pokepokalypse 5y agoNOTHING; individually. This is the way statistics work. The threat is an aggregate threat. What happens when 150k people respond to a post.
- AlexAndScripts 5y agoYou'll happily mention it, and a human can find it if they look through your profile. ML will have a much harder time in comparison to going through some comments, all in a similar way, on a post where everyone is saying something about their state.
- handoflixue 5y agoYeah, but... what's bad about that? Why should I be opposed to ML knowing I'm from Seattle?
- 1123581321 5y agoThe most commonly known proof that such tactics are used is that Cambridge Analytica used social quizzes and games to gather data. https://www.politico.eu/article/cambridge-analytica-facebook-data-brittney-kaiser-privacy/ https://www.politico.eu/article/cambridge-analytica-facebook...
- cinntaile 5y agoI would argue that's quite different from when some influencer asks what state you're from without telling what state you're from. Quizzes and games give data in a much easier format compared to this. It's just a trick to engage people and people like to laugh with stereotypes so they happily oblige. Analyzing all this unlabeled text data to find out what state someone is from seems hardly worth the effort, it's not like that's valuable information.
- 1123581321 5y agoThat may be. I’d expect these tactics to evolve, but like most people I’ll only know for sure if it blows up in a big scandal.
- jackson1442 5y agoThey didn't use the quiz to collect the data, no. They used the OAuth permissions granted to them when you connected with Facebook to collect that data.
- 1123581321 5y agoAh, sorry. I didn’t realize that.