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I don't see how anybody could read this and then pretend that Assange has any chance of a fair trial in America. Not only were his communication constantly moni

I don't see how anybody could read this and then pretend that Assange has any chance of a fair trial in America. Not only were his communication constantly monitored for years, already a breach of client attorney privilege, the US considered flagrant assassination as a potential way to handle him. I've heard many people say that Assange committed actual crimes and it's time for him to face the consequences of those actions. While I personally disagree about whether he's done anything illegal, even if he has it impossible for him to get a fair trial and justice to be served. Everything being done to him is an effort to get revenge on the person who embarrassed the military and intelligence communities.

TheTester 5y ago
Honestly those people are wrong and are usually boomers that lack any self awareness of the crimes of their country, or uniting ally evil people that have given up on the facade of humanity that the richest and most powerful in America used to have. Through the years quite honestly the actual issues that people have with Asante have become more and more clear… he showed the real face of how the hegemony gets power and resources, this made a lot of people that profit from this as well as their luckiest very mad. They can chimp out and or actually try to seem reasonable and say muhhh Hillary or “He helped Trump” or whatever excuse they want to find to accuse him of any sort of crime , but the truth is exposing the reality of the crimes and the murders and the borderline genocides of the rich and powerful, shouldn’t be a crime but the duty of any decent person.
laurent92 5y ago
Well, now that he’s been capture by the USA, we’ll soon know whether he committed anything thanks to his trial, right? Wait, has it been more than a year without trial already?
- avianlyric 5y ago
  Erm, last I checked the U.K. justice system wasn’t the “USA”. The U.K. just denied the US extradition request, so the US isn’t even close to “capturing” Assange.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    Servant states like the UK do not have autonomy in such matters.
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- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Even if Assange's extradition request is granted, his court case won't show whether he has committed anything. I suspect much of the prosecution's argument would be secret, and like in Ellsberg's case Assange would not be permitted to present a defense.
2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
So what's the alternative? Don't make people you like stand trial?
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Don't flagrantly violate an accused's right to a fair trial. My opinions on the person aren't relevant, though I hardly like Assange.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
    How were they violated?
    - legolas2412 5y ago
      > Not only were his communication constantly monitored for years, already a breach of client attorney privilege, the US considered flagrant assassination as a potential way to handle him. Not sure how OP could be more clearer
      - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
        Considered* Did they try? The US also "considers" invading Canada. Consideration means nothing. And the US monitors people suspected of crimes all of the time. I'm tired of hearing about hypothetical "unfair" trials. Once again, the alternative you guys seem to want is a world where people that you like can do whatever they want. You like Assange and because of his celebrity status no trial can be fair- very convenient. Nobody famous has ever stood trial? My 2 cents
        boomboomsubban 5y ago
        >And the US monitors people suspected of crimes all of the time. Even when they have a warrant allowing them to monitor a suspect, which they do not seem to have acquired here, those do not allow the breaking of attorney–client privilege. My "alternative" is that the US obeys the limits placed on them, and conducts fair trials of alleged criminals. And again, I don't like Assange. What I like is the right to a free press and a fair trial.
m0zg 5y ago
Not after the entirety of the liberal press branded him a Putin stooge because he emabarrassed Hillary Clinton, that's for sure. Embarrassing the Clintons generally doesn't do any favors to one's life expectancy in this banana republic.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  I agree that the "liberal" press does a very poor job to get to the bottom of anything recently, it just reiterates propaganda and I don't think they are able to hold anyone accountable. Educational deficits of young journalists are pretty appararent. That said, you don't need to add some weird stuff here.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    Serious question: was Assange's life expectancy longer before the event or after? And if the answer is "before", why is this "weird stuff"?

TheTester 5y ago

Honestly those people are wrong and are usually boomers that lack any self awareness of the crimes of their country, or uniting ally evil people that have given up on the facade of humanity that the richest and most powerful in America used to have. Through the years quite honestly the actual issues that people have with Asante have become more and more clear… he showed the real face of how the hegemony gets power and resources, this made a lot of people that profit from this as well as their luckiest very mad. They can chimp out and or actually try to seem reasonable and say muhhh Hillary or “He helped Trump” or whatever excuse they want to find to accuse him of any sort of crime , but the truth is exposing the reality of the crimes and the murders and the borderline genocides of the rich and powerful, shouldn’t be a crime but the duty of any decent person.

laurent92 5y ago

Well, now that he’s been capture by the USA, we’ll soon know whether he committed anything thanks to his trial, right? Wait, has it been more than a year without trial already?

avianlyric 5y ago
Erm, last I checked the U.K. justice system wasn’t the “USA”. The U.K. just denied the US extradition request, so the US isn’t even close to “capturing” Assange.
- m0zg 5y ago
  Servant states like the UK do not have autonomy in such matters.
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boomboomsubban 5y ago
Even if Assange's extradition request is granted, his court case won't show whether he has committed anything. I suspect much of the prosecution's argument would be secret, and like in Ellsberg's case Assange would not be permitted to present a defense.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

So what's the alternative? Don't make people you like stand trial?

boomboomsubban 5y ago
Don't flagrantly violate an accused's right to a fair trial. My opinions on the person aren't relevant, though I hardly like Assange.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
  How were they violated?
  - legolas2412 5y ago
    > Not only were his communication constantly monitored for years, already a breach of client attorney privilege, the US considered flagrant assassination as a potential way to handle him. Not sure how OP could be more clearer
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
      Considered* Did they try? The US also "considers" invading Canada. Consideration means nothing. And the US monitors people suspected of crimes all of the time. I'm tired of hearing about hypothetical "unfair" trials. Once again, the alternative you guys seem to want is a world where people that you like can do whatever they want. You like Assange and because of his celebrity status no trial can be fair- very convenient. Nobody famous has ever stood trial? My 2 cents
      - boomboomsubban 5y ago
        >And the US monitors people suspected of crimes all of the time. Even when they have a warrant allowing them to monitor a suspect, which they do not seem to have acquired here, those do not allow the breaking of attorney–client privilege. My "alternative" is that the US obeys the limits placed on them, and conducts fair trials of alleged criminals. And again, I don't like Assange. What I like is the right to a free press and a fair trial.

m0zg 5y ago

Not after the entirety of the liberal press branded him a Putin stooge because he emabarrassed Hillary Clinton, that's for sure. Embarrassing the Clintons generally doesn't do any favors to one's life expectancy in this banana republic.

raxxorrax 5y ago
I agree that the "liberal" press does a very poor job to get to the bottom of anything recently, it just reiterates propaganda and I don't think they are able to hold anyone accountable. Educational deficits of young journalists are pretty appararent. That said, you don't need to add some weird stuff here.
- m0zg 5y ago
  Serious question: was Assange's life expectancy longer before the event or after? And if the answer is "before", why is this "weird stuff"?