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I think the biggest travesty was that the Canadian government was unwilling (or unable) to go after Huawei (and China) for the damages that this attack caused.

I think the biggest travesty was that the Canadian government was unwilling (or unable) to go after Huawei (and China) for the damages that this attack caused. At this point, USA has almost completely destroyed Huawei's global consumer electronics business in retaliation for similar attacks on American companies[0][1]. There is no more such thing as a Huawei mobile phone, at least in western civilization. That is the kind of response that I would expect. But I never heard about anything even close to that from the Canadian government. [0] https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-device-manufacturer-and-its-us-affiliate-indicted-theft https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/chinese-telecommunicati... [1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-conglomerate-huawei-and-huawei-cfo-wanzhou-meng-charged-financial https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-co...

khuey 5y ago
The United States has a lot more leverage than Canada on these sorts of things, and back when this all happened people were much less negative on China.
kukx 5y ago
Canada could ban Huawei domestically, maybe. But a wider ban that would really hurt Huawei can only be pulled off by some later entity eg US, EU.
- foerbert 5y ago
  I don't know, I think it's possible Canada has more weight in this kind of thing than you'd expect from it's basic stats. It might not harm Huawei much directly with a ban, but I can easily see that kind of thing spilling over to countries like the US, UK, and Australia as long as they don't intentionally screw up the PR for it.
amelius 5y ago
> There is no more such thing as a Huawei mobile phone, at least in western civilization. They seem to be alive and kicking in Swedish shops though. https://www.pricerunner.se/sp/huawei-smartphone.html https://www.pricerunner.se/sp/huawei-smartphone.html
- kalleboo 5y ago
  The newest phone I can find on that list was released over a year ago, so it's just old models (old stock even?)
Dah00n 5y ago
>There is no more such thing as a Huawei mobile phone, at least in western civilization. That is not true at all. Most countries outside the US have them, especially in "western civilization". Hardly anyone follow the US line these days. Family members just bought two of their newest.
- fomine3 5y ago
  Are Your family happy with Android-like OS without Google? Huawei smartphones are technically still sold in Japan without Google, but no one buy it, despite previously very popular. (IMO Google Android ban is overkill)

khuey 5y ago

The United States has a lot more leverage than Canada on these sorts of things, and back when this all happened people were much less negative on China.

kukx 5y ago

Canada could ban Huawei domestically, maybe. But a wider ban that would really hurt Huawei can only be pulled off by some later entity eg US, EU.

foerbert 5y ago
I don't know, I think it's possible Canada has more weight in this kind of thing than you'd expect from it's basic stats. It might not harm Huawei much directly with a ban, but I can easily see that kind of thing spilling over to countries like the US, UK, and Australia as long as they don't intentionally screw up the PR for it.

amelius 5y ago

> There is no more such thing as a Huawei mobile phone, at least in western civilization. They seem to be alive and kicking in Swedish shops though. https://www.pricerunner.se/sp/huawei-smartphone.html https://www.pricerunner.se/sp/huawei-smartphone.html

kalleboo 5y ago
The newest phone I can find on that list was released over a year ago, so it's just old models (old stock even?)

Dah00n 5y ago

>There is no more such thing as a Huawei mobile phone, at least in western civilization. That is not true at all. Most countries outside the US have them, especially in "western civilization". Hardly anyone follow the US line these days. Family members just bought two of their newest.

fomine3 5y ago
Are Your family happy with Android-like OS without Google? Huawei smartphones are technically still sold in Japan without Google, but no one buy it, despite previously very popular. (IMO Google Android ban is overkill)