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That’s not “similar”. It would be similar if we granted emissions or safety exemptions to new cars from a different manufacturer. My uncles 1942 Jeep is exem

That’s not “similar”. It would be similar if we granted emissions or safety exemptions to new cars from a different manufacturer. My uncles 1942 Jeep is exempt for historical purposes, not so rich people can play with fast, expensive cars.

PaywallBuster 5y ago
double standard if your uncle can keep driving old, low efficient, highly polluting vehicles why can't a rich person buy a ICE ferrari? Makes much more sense to charge on "pollution/gas usage" Kind of wealthy tax but without intervening in the market and picking winners or the "right solution"
- foepys 5y ago
  Because the general expectation (and current reality) is that old cars will break and be scrapped eventually. Only few remain and those few don't matter in regards to global emissions as they are mostly not daily drivers. They instead contribute to keeping tiny bits of history alive. I'd compare it to old houses which are often designated as landmarks. We don't demolish them just because they are not energy efficient by modern standards.
  - cto_of_antifa 5y ago
    Hypothetically speaking, let's say I'm a serial killer. For some unclear pathological reason, I can really only feel joy while murdering people. Should we give me an exemption to Laws against assault and homicide to allow me to enjoy it?
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  “We allow this thing that existed before the rules were made to continue to exist” and “we won’t allow only rich people to create new rule breaking things” is NOT a double standard. Why are you trying to position high end sports car owners as oppressed?
  - PaywallBuster 5y ago
    "gas engine ban"
- Symbiote 5y ago
  I don't know the rules in every country, but to get the exemptions it's generally required that the vehicle isn't used much — driving only to shows or museums for the biggest discount, or limited to a fairly low annual mileage. That will continue to be the case for old cheap and expensive cars, and we justify it to preserve industrial history. There's no reason to introduce a similar exemption for certain new cars.
  - Ensorceled 5y ago
    Ontario has historic plates ... lots of rules but generally what you just described.
darkmatterrat 5y ago
You have to be moderately wealthy or live with a lot of land to be able to afford the space to work on cars in some parts of Europe (typically Northern Europe). I would have to rent out a separate space if I wanted to work on my car or vehicle with historical significance. Also Governments tax old cars out of existence in some countries e.g. in Belgium IIRC I was being told by a friend that vehicles that are essentially deemed to old are made uneconomical to own because of increases in taxes. If you are rich this tax isn't particularly expensive. However if you aren't rich you are essentially forced to get a newer vehicle (which is expensive in itself).

PaywallBuster 5y ago

double standard if your uncle can keep driving old, low efficient, highly polluting vehicles why can't a rich person buy a ICE ferrari? Makes much more sense to charge on "pollution/gas usage" Kind of wealthy tax but without intervening in the market and picking winners or the "right solution"

foepys 5y ago
Because the general expectation (and current reality) is that old cars will break and be scrapped eventually. Only few remain and those few don't matter in regards to global emissions as they are mostly not daily drivers. They instead contribute to keeping tiny bits of history alive. I'd compare it to old houses which are often designated as landmarks. We don't demolish them just because they are not energy efficient by modern standards.
- cto_of_antifa 5y ago
  Hypothetically speaking, let's say I'm a serial killer. For some unclear pathological reason, I can really only feel joy while murdering people. Should we give me an exemption to Laws against assault and homicide to allow me to enjoy it?
Ensorceled 5y ago
“We allow this thing that existed before the rules were made to continue to exist” and “we won’t allow only rich people to create new rule breaking things” is NOT a double standard. Why are you trying to position high end sports car owners as oppressed?
- PaywallBuster 5y ago
  "gas engine ban"
Symbiote 5y ago
I don't know the rules in every country, but to get the exemptions it's generally required that the vehicle isn't used much — driving only to shows or museums for the biggest discount, or limited to a fairly low annual mileage. That will continue to be the case for old cheap and expensive cars, and we justify it to preserve industrial history. There's no reason to introduce a similar exemption for certain new cars.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  Ontario has historic plates ... lots of rules but generally what you just described.

darkmatterrat 5y ago

You have to be moderately wealthy or live with a lot of land to be able to afford the space to work on cars in some parts of Europe (typically Northern Europe). I would have to rent out a separate space if I wanted to work on my car or vehicle with historical significance. Also Governments tax old cars out of existence in some countries e.g. in Belgium IIRC I was being told by a friend that vehicles that are essentially deemed to old are made uneconomical to own because of increases in taxes. If you are rich this tax isn't particularly expensive. However if you aren't rich you are essentially forced to get a newer vehicle (which is expensive in itself).