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I mean, even in the case that occurs, what is the endgame? Fine China? Sanction China? Demand accountability from China? Not happening, not when they make every
by imbnwa 5y ago
I mean, even in the case that occurs, what is the endgame? Fine China? Sanction China? Demand accountability from China? Not happening, not when they make everyone's chips among other things.
Can someone enlighten me about the value of this theory? It just seems like another vector of anti-establishment distrust discourse with a more intelligent veneer; easy to profit off of (clicks, book sales, etc) and doesn't require a conclusion.
- jtdev 5y agoThey don't "make everyone's chip's"... that would be Taiwan. Regarding what should be done: stop giving money to China for GoF research would be a great start...
- speed_spread 5y agoGoF? Is China still caught in the OO Design Pattern trap?
- burnished 5y agoGain of Function.
- gmkiv 5y agoThe value is to inform the larger discussion of the risks and benefits of gain of function research.
- cameldrv 5y agoPerhaps if we have zero recourse against China in this sort of situation, then the first step would be to work to remove the conditions that lead to that lack of recourse.
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- iammisc 5y agoThe value is that it shows the American media for what it is... CCP apologists more willing to believe the communist government of China than a sitting American president with access to classified evidence. And also their use of 'woke' language to hide truth.
- woodruffw 5y agoI'm not sure I'm following: are you saying that the current president should be believed, or the former one? Similarly, are you saying that either president has cited classified information that directly contradicts the media's reporting on COVID-19? To my recollection, neither president has forcefully declassified any evidence that supports the more egregious claims made about COVID (that it was intentionally leaked). In the mean time, there seems to be ample & bipartisan willingness among the general public to at least entertain more benign "accidental leak" theories.
- iammisc 5y agoRobert Redfield former CDC director said trump had access to intelligence implicating the lab. Biden presumay does as well. Also, nowhere here is any claim it was intentional.
- api 5y agoIf this were true, the US is also involved. That would mean both countries are responsible.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> Fine China? Sanction China? Demand accountability from China? If China caused this and then lied about it, there would absolutely be geopolitical will to organize and extract concessions.
- majormajor 5y agoThis was a proposal to DARPA from a US-based group so the "if it came from the Wuhan lab we need to deal with China" part of the common reaction to the lab-origins idea seems wildly unfounded. If it came from a lab - hell, even if it DIDN'T come from a lab, but could have - then we need to globally think about what sort of things we're doing and how safely we can do them.
- willupowers 5y agoThe leaks reveal the confidence of a proposal and path to accomplish the genetic manipulation that Daszak and his associates have been aggressively refuting. This information contradicts those previous statements. It appears Daszak may have conflicts of interest that need more investigation.
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