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Yes. You can get COVID now or you can get it later. You can delay the population catching COVID with masks, etc, but either way - everyone is going to get it. M

Yes. You can get COVID now or you can get it later. You can delay the population catching COVID with masks, etc, but either way - everyone is going to get it. Might as well drop mask requirements at this point and get people vaccinated.

rubicon33 5y ago
No thanks. Even pre-covid people were terrible about being sick in public, coughing on planes, etc. I hope the mask mandates stay, especially for places where distancing is hard. Everyone who knowingly exposes others to illness is at least forced to reduce the trajectory of their droplet spread somewhat now.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > I hope the mask mandates stay, especially for places where distancing is hard. Somehow up until now, society has managed to function just fine without everybody wearing masks all the time. How do you even know masks work? Trusting some rushed research done in the middle of all this with tons of outside pressure to get the "correct" result? Even if masks do work, to what extent? And seriously, society has done fine without them. Plus, I dunno about anybody else but masks are a pain in the ass and I like seeing faces... if I had to wear a mask all the time that would have a substantial impact on my mental health (not to say it already has had impact on my mental health)
  - tunesmith 5y ago
    Are you unaware of the large mask use studies? Like here's one that made the national news fairly recently: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-mask...
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      I've seen that study but masks are so grounded in people's political identity at this point I have a hard time trusting any research conducted. Any scientist publishing a paper saying there is no evidence masks work is gonna commit career suicide. Even if it did get published I bet a ton of money Twitter, FB and friends would all label it misinformation and all the "experts" would find ways to rip it to shreds. One cannot question Covid orthodoxy without getting burned.
tunesmith 5y ago
Masks and vaccines aren't either or. The mRNA vaccines have reduced effectiveness against infection (compared to hospitalization or death), and if an unvaccinated person catches it, it doesn't really matter if they caught it from an unvaccinated person or a vaccinated person - it's just as dangerous either way.
nradov 5y ago
Everyone will be exposed eventually. You might be able to put it off a little but no one will be able to avoid it forever. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646

rubicon33 5y ago

No thanks. Even pre-covid people were terrible about being sick in public, coughing on planes, etc. I hope the mask mandates stay, especially for places where distancing is hard. Everyone who knowingly exposes others to illness is at least forced to reduce the trajectory of their droplet spread somewhat now.

spookthesunset 5y ago
> I hope the mask mandates stay, especially for places where distancing is hard. Somehow up until now, society has managed to function just fine without everybody wearing masks all the time. How do you even know masks work? Trusting some rushed research done in the middle of all this with tons of outside pressure to get the "correct" result? Even if masks do work, to what extent? And seriously, society has done fine without them. Plus, I dunno about anybody else but masks are a pain in the ass and I like seeing faces... if I had to wear a mask all the time that would have a substantial impact on my mental health (not to say it already has had impact on my mental health)
- tunesmith 5y ago
  Are you unaware of the large mask use studies? Like here's one that made the national news fairly recently: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-mask...
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    I've seen that study but masks are so grounded in people's political identity at this point I have a hard time trusting any research conducted. Any scientist publishing a paper saying there is no evidence masks work is gonna commit career suicide. Even if it did get published I bet a ton of money Twitter, FB and friends would all label it misinformation and all the "experts" would find ways to rip it to shreds. One cannot question Covid orthodoxy without getting burned.

tunesmith 5y ago

Masks and vaccines aren't either or. The mRNA vaccines have reduced effectiveness against infection (compared to hospitalization or death), and if an unvaccinated person catches it, it doesn't really matter if they caught it from an unvaccinated person or a vaccinated person - it's just as dangerous either way.

nradov 5y ago

Everyone will be exposed eventually. You might be able to put it off a little but no one will be able to avoid it forever. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646