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Did Rogan even attend college? I don't know enough about his background. Getting a phd is a pretty good step, but not the only step, for being an intellectual.

Did Rogan even attend college? I don't know enough about his background. Getting a phd is a pretty good step, but not the only step, for being an intellectual. Going to high school and then spouting out things like taking horse medicine to cure covid would be a pointer in the opposite direction.

zpeti 5y ago
You do realise the inventor of "horse dewormer" who got a nobel prize for it (does that count as intellectual) also talked about how it has antiviral properties? Oh wait you didn't because his video got removed from YouTube by other "very clever people"TM I'm not endorsing ivermectin, I don't know if it works for covid or any other viral infection, but your reduction to people needing a PHD to make informed choices is just silly.
- api 5y ago
  There is some possibility that ivermectin has some benefit for COVID, but right now there are few if any high quality studies showing that. The right answer is to do more higher quality studies. There is zero justification for getting on the radio and YouTube and hyping it up to the point that ignorant or desperate people try to take horse paste, especially when you combine it with soft-pedal antivax bullshit that convinces people they can put horse paste in their coffee instead of getting the vaccine. This stuff has killed people. https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241660405_3045984345679983_2416686205415535161_n.png?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=hz-8GvKfgxYAX_B28BJ&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=a32422721554b1d506b003490ebfa835&oe=61501852 https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241660405... Numbers are similar in other places.
api 5y ago
Yeah the horse paste and soft-pedal antivax shit is definitely when Rogan and also the "Intellectual Dark Web" jumped the shark. I don't think you need a Ph.D, but as you say it's one decent avenue. You can also grind yourself up, but you have to be an honest real autodidact who actually tries to learn stuff not a crank. The core characteristic of a crank IMHO is that they either stop when they know enough to sound smart or get emotionally attached to particular points of view and refuse to entertain others.
kmmlng 5y ago
It's clear that Rogan himself is not an intellectual. He will be the first person to tell you that. That seems to be the appeal of his show, though. He talks to experts (not all of them intellectuals) without being an expert himself. That's useful as a listener, because chances are you aren't an expert in any given field and listening to two experts talk would be borderline imcomprehensible to you.

zpeti 5y ago

You do realise the inventor of "horse dewormer" who got a nobel prize for it (does that count as intellectual) also talked about how it has antiviral properties? Oh wait you didn't because his video got removed from YouTube by other "very clever people"TM I'm not endorsing ivermectin, I don't know if it works for covid or any other viral infection, but your reduction to people needing a PHD to make informed choices is just silly.

api 5y ago
There is some possibility that ivermectin has some benefit for COVID, but right now there are few if any high quality studies showing that. The right answer is to do more higher quality studies. There is zero justification for getting on the radio and YouTube and hyping it up to the point that ignorant or desperate people try to take horse paste, especially when you combine it with soft-pedal antivax bullshit that convinces people they can put horse paste in their coffee instead of getting the vaccine. This stuff has killed people. https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241660405_3045984345679983_2416686205415535161_n.png?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=hz-8GvKfgxYAX_B28BJ&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=a32422721554b1d506b003490ebfa835&oe=61501852 https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/241660405... Numbers are similar in other places.

api 5y ago

Yeah the horse paste and soft-pedal antivax shit is definitely when Rogan and also the "Intellectual Dark Web" jumped the shark. I don't think you need a Ph.D, but as you say it's one decent avenue. You can also grind yourself up, but you have to be an honest real autodidact who actually tries to learn stuff not a crank. The core characteristic of a crank IMHO is that they either stop when they know enough to sound smart or get emotionally attached to particular points of view and refuse to entertain others.

kmmlng 5y ago

It's clear that Rogan himself is not an intellectual. He will be the first person to tell you that. That seems to be the appeal of his show, though. He talks to experts (not all of them intellectuals) without being an expert himself. That's useful as a listener, because chances are you aren't an expert in any given field and listening to two experts talk would be borderline imcomprehensible to you.