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I hope that this is what USB4 will bring, since iiuc, USB4 is basically the IF's name for Thunderbolt-4-capable USB-C. This was enabled by Intel contributing th
by infogulch 5y ago
I hope that this is what USB4 will bring, since iiuc, USB4 is basically the IF's name for Thunderbolt-4-capable USB-C. This was enabled by Intel contributing the TB4 spec to the committee, in a shockingly benevolent move that I guess may have been the greatest internal political feat Intel staff pulled off in the last decade.
Edit: Oh and presumably the ports on the Framework are USB4, they just can't say that yet because the certification is still in the works.
- mixmastamyk 5y agoReally? Interesting if true. Is that the case with other new intel gear?
- infogulch 5y agoAh it seems I was slightly off, it's TB3 not TB4, "The USB4 specification is based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol specification." [0] But it does require: USB-PD, PCIe & DP tunneling, minimum 20 Gbit speed, max 40 Gbit speed. Stated goals to "minimize end-user confusion". I've seen some peripherals and such with it, no laptops yet though. The spec was released in 2019, so considering hardware cycle time we should start to see more devices soon. It's pretty cool that Framework will likely be on the leading edge of that wave. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4
- curt15 5y agoThe Dell XPS 13 9310 has two TB4/USB4 ports.
- iSnow 5y agoIs Dell still gimping them to 10Gbit/s like they used to? Considered an 13" XPS for years, but then turned to Apple because of this ridiculous decision.
- Dylan16807 5y agoThey'd better not be. Thunderbolt 4 mandates 32Gbps of data. The site says each port has 4 lanes of pcie 3.0
- jjoonathan 5y ago> PCIe tunneling Hell yeah, USB over PCIe over USB over PCIe here we goooooo!