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Why didn't they give you increases as you delivered and showed them value? This is always the key question to ask. If you are worth 40% more to them now, why

Why didn't they give you increases as you delivered and showed them value? This is always the key question to ask. If you are worth 40% more to them now, why didn't they keep you happy before you went looking? Did you ask for more and they said no, so you went looking and now suddenly they are ok with it? IMO, accepting counter offers is almost always a mistake. Take the new opportunity, get new experiences and learn from others. There are times this could be bad advice, but as a general rule this is correct. You went on market for a reason, if money is the only reason you still have to ask why your current employer didn't address it along the way. If you've been there 3 years you shouldn't be 40% behind market. BTW In a good company the promotion requirement here is so they can sell it to management and try to make it not look like you are "disloyal". In some companies this is because they stick to rigid salary bands (nearly always a bad idea when based on primarily title). In bad companies this is just a trick to make you feel more valued and hold you to a different standard which they will find ways to make sure you fail to either replace you or ironically to trap you. FWIW, I think the disloyal crap is total BS, but I've been in too many meetings over my career where it is a factor so just be aware.

niceless 5y ago
Well, the thing is I didn't go looking, The new company contacted me with a very compelling initial speech, and I decided to go along to just see what I can get :). I've been in the company for a year and 2 months now. I'm not trying to portray the current company as the bad guy, neither I think of myself as a victim. I never asked for a raise (only been there for a year ). I think the salary they provide is the norm (a year ago it was 30% more than my old salary) it's just that I'm now able to get a better offer, and the manager (very nice guy) was very candid and told me directly that it would be easier for him to ask for matching the offer to higher management if It comes with more responsibility (or in other word, a promotion), and much harder without. Personally I would prefer for them to match it, but with keeping the same job title. since I was always planning to switch companies at some point but after I finish (or reach a point that I'm satisfied with) the projects I'm working on right now.
niceless 5y ago
> In bad companies this is just a trick to make you feel more valued and hold you to a different standard which they will find ways to make sure you fail to either replace you or ironically to trap you. That's what I'm afraid of, since there is really no real need for a tech lead right now. I'm afraid that it will be just an empty title that will create a bottleneck in my career.

niceless 5y ago

Well, the thing is I didn't go looking, The new company contacted me with a very compelling initial speech, and I decided to go along to just see what I can get :). I've been in the company for a year and 2 months now. I'm not trying to portray the current company as the bad guy, neither I think of myself as a victim. I never asked for a raise (only been there for a year ). I think the salary they provide is the norm (a year ago it was 30% more than my old salary) it's just that I'm now able to get a better offer, and the manager (very nice guy) was very candid and told me directly that it would be easier for him to ask for matching the offer to higher management if It comes with more responsibility (or in other word, a promotion), and much harder without. Personally I would prefer for them to match it, but with keeping the same job title. since I was always planning to switch companies at some point but after I finish (or reach a point that I'm satisfied with) the projects I'm working on right now.

niceless 5y ago

> In bad companies this is just a trick to make you feel more valued and hold you to a different standard which they will find ways to make sure you fail to either replace you or ironically to trap you. That's what I'm afraid of, since there is really no real need for a tech lead right now. I'm afraid that it will be just an empty title that will create a bottleneck in my career.