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It's really odd: In the previous election, you couldn't see/hear one news report about the election without mentioning the Wahl-O-Mat. This election-time it was

It's really odd: In the previous election, you couldn't see/hear one news report about the election without mentioning the Wahl-O-Mat. This election-time it was some internet meme that reminded me it existed. After usage of it, it becomes apparent as to why it gets zero coverage: Almost everyone I've asked (migrant/unemployed/self-employed/postal-worker/cooks/farmer/cab-driver/...) experienced a stark surprise. The parties they came out with, did not match at all with what is presented to them as a "good choice" by the media. Some of my migrant friends joked that I should label them a right-winger now. I'm not sure whether they will base their election on the Wahl-O-Mat experience alone. But it does show a huge difference in the agenda-setting of our media vs. the needs of individuals.

square_usual 5y ago
> Some of my migrant friends joked that I should label them a right-winger now. I don't see how that's odd. Many migrants come from more conservative (in the Western sense) cultures. They can align with the progressive parties because they're afraid of the conservative ones due to their anti-immigrant stances, but that doesn't mean they are progressive.
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- the-dude 5y ago
  I think you would be surprised how many immigrants have an anti-immigrant stance once they are in. I know a couple.
  - square_usual 5y ago
    Oh, definitely, I have no doubt about that. There's a lot of immigrants who like immigrating is hard because they think it keeps out the chaff, so to speak. As an Indian, I've seen this in many in my own circle who've emigrated or spent significant time abroad.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  > I don't see how that's odd. Many migrants come from more conservative (in the Western sense) cultures. They can align with the progressive parties because they're afraid of the conservative ones due to their anti-immigrant stances, but that doesn't mean they are progressive. Yeah, I used to point out that Islam as practiced by a significant number of Muslims is further to the right than Trump supporters. You do get downvoted for pointing that out,though.
slightwinder 5y ago
> Some of my migrant friends joked that I should label them a right-winger now. Did they get something like AFD or NPD as top-choices?
- RalfWausE 5y ago
  The funny thing i observed is: Especially immigrants from (former) communist countries (at least in my peer group) are tending more towards AfD instead of more left leaning parties. My wife, originating out of Vietnam has studied in germany, has now full citizenship and is working here would rather vote for the AfD then anything left of the CDU. Why? Because the memory of $left_leaning_party = communism = bad living circumstances are too deep engrainend in her mind.
imtringued 5y ago
I got my parties of choice on all tools I have used. The fact that I always got the same results made me bored of these tools. Maybe tell people to actually read the party programs before doing the Wahl-O-Mat? Also, don't forget to actually activate all parties. Selecting 5 right wing parties and then being surprised that you don't vote for them is stupid.

square_usual 5y ago

> Some of my migrant friends joked that I should label them a right-winger now. I don't see how that's odd. Many migrants come from more conservative (in the Western sense) cultures. They can align with the progressive parties because they're afraid of the conservative ones due to their anti-immigrant stances, but that doesn't mean they are progressive.

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the-dude 5y ago
I think you would be surprised how many immigrants have an anti-immigrant stance once they are in. I know a couple.
- square_usual 5y ago
  Oh, definitely, I have no doubt about that. There's a lot of immigrants who like immigrating is hard because they think it keeps out the chaff, so to speak. As an Indian, I've seen this in many in my own circle who've emigrated or spent significant time abroad.
lelanthran 5y ago
> I don't see how that's odd. Many migrants come from more conservative (in the Western sense) cultures. They can align with the progressive parties because they're afraid of the conservative ones due to their anti-immigrant stances, but that doesn't mean they are progressive. Yeah, I used to point out that Islam as practiced by a significant number of Muslims is further to the right than Trump supporters. You do get downvoted for pointing that out,though.

slightwinder 5y ago

> Some of my migrant friends joked that I should label them a right-winger now. Did they get something like AFD or NPD as top-choices?

RalfWausE 5y ago
The funny thing i observed is: Especially immigrants from (former) communist countries (at least in my peer group) are tending more towards AfD instead of more left leaning parties. My wife, originating out of Vietnam has studied in germany, has now full citizenship and is working here would rather vote for the AfD then anything left of the CDU. Why? Because the memory of $left_leaning_party = communism = bad living circumstances are too deep engrainend in her mind.

imtringued 5y ago

I got my parties of choice on all tools I have used. The fact that I always got the same results made me bored of these tools. Maybe tell people to actually read the party programs before doing the Wahl-O-Mat? Also, don't forget to actually activate all parties. Selecting 5 right wing parties and then being surprised that you don't vote for them is stupid.