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> It's a mantra at this point that polarization has gotten out of control, but one of the biggest effects it seems to have is this reverse-psychology effect I'

> It's a mantra at this point that polarization has gotten out of control, but one of the biggest effects it seems to have is this reverse-psychology effect I've long thought the best way of reaching 100% vaccination in the US was to have competing Democrat and Republican vaccines. Democrats could don a dashiki and say one thing while Republicans could put up a crack smoking pillow salesman to say another.

eunos 5y ago
Make 1 vaccine brand "endorsed by Republican" and other brand "endorsed by Democrat"
- chrischen 5y ago
  I think the vaccine endorsed by the right is called Ivermectin.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    Trump has endorsed the vaccine repeatedly and at the time when democrats were literally saying not to trust the vaccine. So I'm not sure about that
    - epakai 5y ago
      Trump has been spouting anti-vaccine rhetoric since before has candidacy. He dismissed the seriousness of the disease, and called other's response part of a hoax. Before the vaccine he made unnecessary endorsements of alternative treatments. His push for vaccine development and encouraging people to get it might be commendable, but they ring hollow and lack effectiveness because of his past stances.
  - supportlocal4h 5y ago
    I consider myself to be on the right. We use Ivermectin. We have stocked it for years. It's a very handy de-wormer. It has served our livestock very well. If you have never used it, and have never treated animals for worms, maybe you should listen more and talk less. Most experienced people I know on the left are fine with Ivermectin. Oh, you mean for Covid? We use BioNTech and Moderna for that. Please stop confusing people on the right with vulnerable uneducated people in general. There are plenty of those on the left and right. Donald Trump does not represent the right. He represents Trumpers. Unfortunately many of those who shape the Republican party are Trumpers. But there are obviously perfectly reasonable people on the right who are not Trumpers. The ignorant are exploited by both sides. Please be careful to distinguish between the exploiters and the exploited.
    - chrischen 5y ago
      If you are some separate "right" that has no affiliation to these "Trumpers" then stop donating to/voting for the party that is supporting candidates that clearly align with or benefit from this type of thinking. I didn't confuse anything because that's the rhetoric coming from the right. Even if all of you from the right don't agree with it, you certainly don't do much to fight it. Very few people agree with their political party across the board. Most people vote for the "lesser evil." This is a common viewpoint and is essentially your viewpoint. Your actions of course define who you are.
      - supportlocal4h 5y ago
        You assume too much. I cannot stop doing something I never did to begin with. Do you really think Biden got elected without help from the right? Many people from the right rejected Trump and contributed to voting him out of office. You don't have to be a Biden fan to recognize the danger of Trumpism.
      - MarcoZavala 5y ago
        I'd love to watch someone cut your head off with a chainsaw.
varelse 5y ago
This was a stroke of pure genius by this writer at Breitbart IMO. Spoilers: it breaks the narrative so it doesn't work. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/09/10/nolte-howard-stern-proves-democrats-want-unvaccinated-trump-voters-dead/ https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/09/10/nolte-how...
- hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
  Was that satire? I honestly couldn't tell.
  - varelse 5y ago
    That's pretty much my take on America right now as well coincidentally.
    - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
      I mean, who cares? If it gets one person to get vaccinated it's probably worth it. See also, the impact of claims of voter fraud/rigged elections on Republican turnout in Georgia Senate and the California recall election.
- chrischen 5y ago
  Article reads like a either 1) an infiltrated "leftist" trying to appeal to the hard right in their dialect or 2) the hard right elite losing control of their sheep.
  - esyir 5y ago
    The right sheep are definitely harder to control than the left's. Why do you think trump won? The right elite certainly didn't want that.
mbg721 5y ago
The whole idea that "Republicans will all just listen as long as this spokesman says so" is yet another Flyover-Country dismissal from people who don't get it--the angry conservatives do not have anyone in government meaningfully representing their views, and that's why they're so angry. Trump was the closest thing lately, but it's about deeply-held personal philosophy, not the cult of personality the media wishes it were. If Trump got on TV and started sounding like Mitt Romney, they'd toss him aside in two seconds.
- joshuaissac 5y ago
  > If Trump got on TV and started sounding like Mitt Romney, they'd toss him aside in two seconds. That's right. Trump was booed the moment he suggested that his supporters get vaccinated against Covid-19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Z4J9nY0v4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Z4J9nY0v4
  - JohnWhigham 5y ago
    It doesn't matter. He's still revered by many, even if he now supports vaccination. It is 100% a cult of personality.
    - a_conservative 5y ago
      This is straight up flame bait that adds nothing to an otherwise reasonable discussion.
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Mountain_Skies 5y ago
Doubtful. Democrats pushing for vaccines haven't been effective in getting their most reliable voting block, communities of color, to take the vaccine. Trump has been imploring his supporters to take the vaccines but they're the other large group that makes up the unvaccinated. There are groups that blindly follow whatever their partisan leaders tell them but neither party has very good control over their voters when it comes to vaccination. The media certainly would like you to think it's a partisan issue but it's only one if you ignore either of the two largest groups of unvaccinated.
mbrodersen 5y ago
Call the Republican one the “Freedom Vaccine” and market it as the way to show your Patriotism, and hint that taking it will make Liberals cry (“The Libs will HATE you for taking this vaccine!”). Also claim that the Freedom Vaccine is full of anti-Communist goodness and Proudly Made In America! (Using 99% ingredients imported from Mexico) making America Great Again!

eunos 5y ago

Make 1 vaccine brand "endorsed by Republican" and other brand "endorsed by Democrat"

chrischen 5y ago
I think the vaccine endorsed by the right is called Ivermectin.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  Trump has endorsed the vaccine repeatedly and at the time when democrats were literally saying not to trust the vaccine. So I'm not sure about that
  - epakai 5y ago
    Trump has been spouting anti-vaccine rhetoric since before has candidacy. He dismissed the seriousness of the disease, and called other's response part of a hoax. Before the vaccine he made unnecessary endorsements of alternative treatments. His push for vaccine development and encouraging people to get it might be commendable, but they ring hollow and lack effectiveness because of his past stances.
- supportlocal4h 5y ago
  I consider myself to be on the right. We use Ivermectin. We have stocked it for years. It's a very handy de-wormer. It has served our livestock very well. If you have never used it, and have never treated animals for worms, maybe you should listen more and talk less. Most experienced people I know on the left are fine with Ivermectin. Oh, you mean for Covid? We use BioNTech and Moderna for that. Please stop confusing people on the right with vulnerable uneducated people in general. There are plenty of those on the left and right. Donald Trump does not represent the right. He represents Trumpers. Unfortunately many of those who shape the Republican party are Trumpers. But there are obviously perfectly reasonable people on the right who are not Trumpers. The ignorant are exploited by both sides. Please be careful to distinguish between the exploiters and the exploited.
  - chrischen 5y ago
    If you are some separate "right" that has no affiliation to these "Trumpers" then stop donating to/voting for the party that is supporting candidates that clearly align with or benefit from this type of thinking. I didn't confuse anything because that's the rhetoric coming from the right. Even if all of you from the right don't agree with it, you certainly don't do much to fight it. Very few people agree with their political party across the board. Most people vote for the "lesser evil." This is a common viewpoint and is essentially your viewpoint. Your actions of course define who you are.
    - supportlocal4h 5y ago
      You assume too much. I cannot stop doing something I never did to begin with. Do you really think Biden got elected without help from the right? Many people from the right rejected Trump and contributed to voting him out of office. You don't have to be a Biden fan to recognize the danger of Trumpism.
    - MarcoZavala 5y ago
      I'd love to watch someone cut your head off with a chainsaw.

varelse 5y ago

This was a stroke of pure genius by this writer at Breitbart IMO. Spoilers: it breaks the narrative so it doesn't work. https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/09/10/nolte-howard-stern-proves-democrats-want-unvaccinated-trump-voters-dead/ https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/09/10/nolte-how...

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
Was that satire? I honestly couldn't tell.
- varelse 5y ago
  That's pretty much my take on America right now as well coincidentally.
  - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
    I mean, who cares? If it gets one person to get vaccinated it's probably worth it. See also, the impact of claims of voter fraud/rigged elections on Republican turnout in Georgia Senate and the California recall election.
chrischen 5y ago
Article reads like a either 1) an infiltrated "leftist" trying to appeal to the hard right in their dialect or 2) the hard right elite losing control of their sheep.
- esyir 5y ago
  The right sheep are definitely harder to control than the left's. Why do you think trump won? The right elite certainly didn't want that.

mbg721 5y ago

The whole idea that "Republicans will all just listen as long as this spokesman says so" is yet another Flyover-Country dismissal from people who don't get it--the angry conservatives do not have anyone in government meaningfully representing their views, and that's why they're so angry. Trump was the closest thing lately, but it's about deeply-held personal philosophy, not the cult of personality the media wishes it were. If Trump got on TV and started sounding like Mitt Romney, they'd toss him aside in two seconds.

joshuaissac 5y ago
> If Trump got on TV and started sounding like Mitt Romney, they'd toss him aside in two seconds. That's right. Trump was booed the moment he suggested that his supporters get vaccinated against Covid-19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Z4J9nY0v4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Z4J9nY0v4
- JohnWhigham 5y ago
  It doesn't matter. He's still revered by many, even if he now supports vaccination. It is 100% a cult of personality.
  - a_conservative 5y ago
    This is straight up flame bait that adds nothing to an otherwise reasonable discussion.
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Mountain_Skies 5y ago

Doubtful. Democrats pushing for vaccines haven't been effective in getting their most reliable voting block, communities of color, to take the vaccine. Trump has been imploring his supporters to take the vaccines but they're the other large group that makes up the unvaccinated. There are groups that blindly follow whatever their partisan leaders tell them but neither party has very good control over their voters when it comes to vaccination. The media certainly would like you to think it's a partisan issue but it's only one if you ignore either of the two largest groups of unvaccinated.

mbrodersen 5y ago

Call the Republican one the “Freedom Vaccine” and market it as the way to show your Patriotism, and hint that taking it will make Liberals cry (“The Libs will HATE you for taking this vaccine!”). Also claim that the Freedom Vaccine is full of anti-Communist goodness and Proudly Made In America! (Using 99% ingredients imported from Mexico) making America Great Again!