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I already have 2 doses of Pfizer, can I get Moderna on top of that?

by sbassi 5y ago

bryan0 5y ago
This is a good question. Are you in the US? I think they are only approving the pfizer boosters right now for those 65+. However people are definitely going into CVS or whatever and say they need to get their first moderna shot…
- ghaff 5y ago
  65+ or immunocompromised. And there’s no proof required of the latter. But as you say presumably one can go someplace that has no record of them and get a “first” shot of something else.
- dehrmann 5y ago
  Most (if not all) states aren't requiring an ID, so it's pretty easy. I'm getting suspicious of the Santa Clara county vaccination numbers. I wouldn't be shocked if 5% of people got a third dose.
  - hnyolo081221 5y ago
    The Pharmacist wording his question if I had previously received a Moderna shot instead of any covid vaccination at all makes me wonder if it was a nod to people looking for a vaccination most effective at the time.
  - deleted 5y ago
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- hnyolo081221 5y ago
  I'm in the US and in a very vaccine hesitant and anti-vaccination area (they maybe semantically different but are effectively identical in outcome).
- onionisafruit 5y ago
  Most Americans aren’t going to let an FDA recommendation influence what we put in our bodies. Half of us are taking horse dewormers.
  - dehrmann 5y ago
    No need to call out that it's for horses. Ivermectin is also used in humans for the same purpose (parasites). It's ineffective for covid, but adding the "horse" bit makes it seem more dangerous than it really is.
    - lou1306 5y ago
      While it's true invermectin is also approved for humans, some people do buy/take the veterinarian tablets that target the, uh, "horse market". So they are in fact using a horse drug.
      - kcplate 5y ago
        > Some people Ya know, I keep hearing this, but no one ever seems to quote any actual statistics of the practice happening. Even the big Rolling Stone article that half the media quoted and went viral regarding the Oklahoma ERs having a rash of veterinary ivermectin ODs was complete BS. Some other article I read quoted about a “rash” of calls about horse ivermectin to poison control, which buried a few paragraphs in the article turned out to be like 4-5 calls total and pretty much all were just general calls inquiring if it was dangerous. So while I am sure there are some people taking it, I imagine it’s about as prevalent a practice as the “some people took fish tank cleaner” last year…which turns out apparently the only actual case was just some crazy lady trying to kill her husband. But hey I’m open to real evidence of the practice if someone can find some actual data and post it. Until then I chalk this up as rumor and assumption.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    "Half of us" — screenshot a real person in your social network claiming to be on it.
fhdch 5y ago
How old are you that you’re even considering this? You’re unlikely to be posting here and belong to the at-risk demographic. Also, since you believe the vaccines are valuable (otherwise you wouldn’t want a third), how do you deal with the thought that most of the world hasn't had an opportunity to get a first shot?
numbsafari 5y ago
If Covid has validated anything, it’s that if you have the money, anything can be done.
- dylan604 5y ago
  I'm pretty sure we had plenty of evidence this was the case long before covid-19 was a thing. Wealthy people have better lawyers which affords them to do things like get away with murder, not pay taxes, have better medical care, have better housing, have better education, on and on and on.
- jefftk 5y ago
  Eh, you don't need money: nothing's stopping you from going to a CVS and not disclosing your earlier shots.
  - hnyolo081221 5y ago
    Can confirm. The irony of the GP comment is, is this is the one rare time when healthcare access in the US doesn't differ between the rich and the poor, the vaccine is free for all.
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      >The irony of the GP comment is, is this is the one rare time when healthcare access in the US doesn't differ between the rich and the poor, the vaccine is free for all There no irony here. It's just bad business for the ruling class if the proletariat that works for them and is the pillar of their wealth, dies off. If there's no one left to grow and harvest your food, maintain water and energy infrastructure, then it doesn't matter how much cash, stocks, how many jets, yachts and McMansions you own.
      - hnyolo081221 5y ago
        There no irony here. It's just bad business for the ruling class if the proletariat that works for them and is the pillar of their wealth, dies off. I guess that's why insulin rationing is a thing?
belltaco 5y ago
Complicating things Moderna applied for an authorization with studies for a booster with only 50ug(half the original dosage).
hnyolo081221 5y ago
News was just coming out that Moderna faired better against the Delta variant than Pfizer which I had received back in February. I had an upcoming trip so I decided to go get the Moderna. The CVS pharmacist asked if I had received a Moderna shot before, nope, which is the truth. So I got the first Moderna shot about 3 weeks before my trip, and went ahead and got the 2nd round about 4 days ago. I would much rather that every dose going un-used somehow find it's way into the arm of someone in the world that would take it and get us that much closer to stopping variants and achieving herd immunity, but that's not the world we live in. Instead doses are being thrown away, and enough people with access to the vaccine are instead insisting on dragging this pandemic out. So I'll take every defense available to me, and all the benefits it incurs to those around me, and not apologize for it (yes, I still wear a mask indoors even after 4 rounds.) Edit: corrected March to February.
- selimnairb 5y ago
  Did you have any side effects from the Moderna shots? I did the same thing as you (originally got Pfizer, decided to get a Moderna booster based on Delta efficacy; I have a young child who can’t be vaxxed yet). However, I haven’t yet had the 2nd Moderna dose. I am still debating it. So far I have pushed it out to the recommended 42 day maximum interval in the US. The thing that is keeping me on the fence is that the 1st Moderna booster I got hit me like a truck. I had much more severe fatigue and discomfort (i.e., body aches, maybe chest pain) than with the 2nd Pfizer dose (I had no side effects with the 1st Pfizer). I usually feel like crap for a couple of days after flu shots, so none of this is too alarming to me.
  - hnyolo081221 5y ago
    I lucked out and didn't have any side effects from either round of both types. My wife did the same as I did (the inability for our kids to get vaccinated was a huge driver in this decision for us too); the second round of both Pfizer and Moderna left her feeling crappy and tired the next day and she basically slept it off both times but she was back to normal the following days.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
ehsankia 5y ago
In Canada, many people got Pfizer as first dose and Moderna as 2nd. I'm curious to see the data on that. We also got our 2nd dose 2-4month after the first.
- adventured 5y ago
  Angela Merkel did one Astra dose in April and then one Moderna dose in June. It likely works quite fine. I've yet to see any data showing that mixing vaccines produces a particularly greater risk of a bad outcome. It did make me wonder why Merkel went with Moderna instead of BioNTech. I would assume she could have easily chosen either. Perhaps because Moderna was thought to be more potent by the June timeframe.
  - zarzavat 5y ago
    It may have been political. Germans are more likely to trust the BioNTech vaccine than the Moderna vaccine, so taking the Moderna vaccine sends the message that "All vaccines are good enough", which is the correct message if the intention is to maximise uptake of limited vaccine supplies. This was also probably the reason why she took the AstraZeneca vaccine in the first place.
- carbine 5y ago
  This is what I had, and my one frustration is having such little data to suggest how this regime (mixing mRNA vaccines and long interval between doses) will or won’t perform over time.
Proven 5y ago
No inclination to let that Prizer dose be purchased for someone in Africa, eh?
dehrmann 5y ago
Hopefully someone's testing this, but I'm really curious if J&J would be better as a booster because it works somewhat differently.
ali92hm 5y ago
I got the J&J back in early April which was all I could get my hands on back then(no side effects aside from a sore arm). After seeing its efficacy (specially against the delta variant) I went and got a Pfizer shot in early July which hit me like a truck. Since I was already "fully vaccinated" I delayed the second dose of my Pfizer shot till now (~10 weeks) to maximize the induced immunity. I gotta say the second dose of Pfizer only give me mild side effects for half a day.

I already have 2 doses of Pfizer, can I get Moderna on top of that?

by sbassi 5y ago

I already have 2 doses of Pfizer, can I get Moderna on top of that?

This is a good question. Are you in the US? I think they are only approving the pfizer boosters right now for those 65+. However people are definitely going into CVS or whatever and say they need to get their first moderna shot…

ghaff 5y ago
65+ or immunocompromised. And there’s no proof required of the latter. But as you say presumably one can go someplace that has no record of them and get a “first” shot of something else.
dehrmann 5y ago
Most (if not all) states aren't requiring an ID, so it's pretty easy. I'm getting suspicious of the Santa Clara county vaccination numbers. I wouldn't be shocked if 5% of people got a third dose.
- hnyolo081221 5y ago
  The Pharmacist wording his question if I had previously received a Moderna shot instead of any covid vaccination at all makes me wonder if it was a nod to people looking for a vaccination most effective at the time.
- deleted 5y ago
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hnyolo081221 5y ago
I'm in the US and in a very vaccine hesitant and anti-vaccination area (they maybe semantically different but are effectively identical in outcome).
onionisafruit 5y ago
Most Americans aren’t going to let an FDA recommendation influence what we put in our bodies. Half of us are taking horse dewormers.
- dehrmann 5y ago
  No need to call out that it's for horses. Ivermectin is also used in humans for the same purpose (parasites). It's ineffective for covid, but adding the "horse" bit makes it seem more dangerous than it really is.
  - lou1306 5y ago
    While it's true invermectin is also approved for humans, some people do buy/take the veterinarian tablets that target the, uh, "horse market". So they are in fact using a horse drug.
    - kcplate 5y ago
      > Some people Ya know, I keep hearing this, but no one ever seems to quote any actual statistics of the practice happening. Even the big Rolling Stone article that half the media quoted and went viral regarding the Oklahoma ERs having a rash of veterinary ivermectin ODs was complete BS. Some other article I read quoted about a “rash” of calls about horse ivermectin to poison control, which buried a few paragraphs in the article turned out to be like 4-5 calls total and pretty much all were just general calls inquiring if it was dangerous. So while I am sure there are some people taking it, I imagine it’s about as prevalent a practice as the “some people took fish tank cleaner” last year…which turns out apparently the only actual case was just some crazy lady trying to kill her husband. But hey I’m open to real evidence of the practice if someone can find some actual data and post it. Until then I chalk this up as rumor and assumption.
- atatatat 5y ago
  "Half of us" — screenshot a real person in your social network claiming to be on it.

fhdch 5y ago

How old are you that you’re even considering this? You’re unlikely to be posting here and belong to the at-risk demographic. Also, since you believe the vaccines are valuable (otherwise you wouldn’t want a third), how do you deal with the thought that most of the world hasn't had an opportunity to get a first shot?

numbsafari 5y ago

If Covid has validated anything, it’s that if you have the money, anything can be done.

dylan604 5y ago
I'm pretty sure we had plenty of evidence this was the case long before covid-19 was a thing. Wealthy people have better lawyers which affords them to do things like get away with murder, not pay taxes, have better medical care, have better housing, have better education, on and on and on.
jefftk 5y ago
Eh, you don't need money: nothing's stopping you from going to a CVS and not disclosing your earlier shots.
- hnyolo081221 5y ago
  Can confirm. The irony of the GP comment is, is this is the one rare time when healthcare access in the US doesn't differ between the rich and the poor, the vaccine is free for all.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >The irony of the GP comment is, is this is the one rare time when healthcare access in the US doesn't differ between the rich and the poor, the vaccine is free for all There no irony here. It's just bad business for the ruling class if the proletariat that works for them and is the pillar of their wealth, dies off. If there's no one left to grow and harvest your food, maintain water and energy infrastructure, then it doesn't matter how much cash, stocks, how many jets, yachts and McMansions you own.
    - hnyolo081221 5y ago
      There no irony here. It's just bad business for the ruling class if the proletariat that works for them and is the pillar of their wealth, dies off. I guess that's why insulin rationing is a thing?

belltaco 5y ago

Complicating things Moderna applied for an authorization with studies for a booster with only 50ug(half the original dosage).

hnyolo081221 5y ago

News was just coming out that Moderna faired better against the Delta variant than Pfizer which I had received back in February. I had an upcoming trip so I decided to go get the Moderna. The CVS pharmacist asked if I had received a Moderna shot before, nope, which is the truth. So I got the first Moderna shot about 3 weeks before my trip, and went ahead and got the 2nd round about 4 days ago. I would much rather that every dose going un-used somehow find it's way into the arm of someone in the world that would take it and get us that much closer to stopping variants and achieving herd immunity, but that's not the world we live in. Instead doses are being thrown away, and enough people with access to the vaccine are instead insisting on dragging this pandemic out. So I'll take every defense available to me, and all the benefits it incurs to those around me, and not apologize for it (yes, I still wear a mask indoors even after 4 rounds.) Edit: corrected March to February.

selimnairb 5y ago
Did you have any side effects from the Moderna shots? I did the same thing as you (originally got Pfizer, decided to get a Moderna booster based on Delta efficacy; I have a young child who can’t be vaxxed yet). However, I haven’t yet had the 2nd Moderna dose. I am still debating it. So far I have pushed it out to the recommended 42 day maximum interval in the US. The thing that is keeping me on the fence is that the 1st Moderna booster I got hit me like a truck. I had much more severe fatigue and discomfort (i.e., body aches, maybe chest pain) than with the 2nd Pfizer dose (I had no side effects with the 1st Pfizer). I usually feel like crap for a couple of days after flu shots, so none of this is too alarming to me.
- hnyolo081221 5y ago
  I lucked out and didn't have any side effects from either round of both types. My wife did the same as I did (the inability for our kids to get vaccinated was a huge driver in this decision for us too); the second round of both Pfizer and Moderna left her feeling crappy and tired the next day and she basically slept it off both times but she was back to normal the following days.
- ipaddr 5y ago

ehsankia 5y ago

In Canada, many people got Pfizer as first dose and Moderna as 2nd. I'm curious to see the data on that. We also got our 2nd dose 2-4month after the first.

adventured 5y ago
Angela Merkel did one Astra dose in April and then one Moderna dose in June. It likely works quite fine. I've yet to see any data showing that mixing vaccines produces a particularly greater risk of a bad outcome. It did make me wonder why Merkel went with Moderna instead of BioNTech. I would assume she could have easily chosen either. Perhaps because Moderna was thought to be more potent by the June timeframe.
- zarzavat 5y ago
  It may have been political. Germans are more likely to trust the BioNTech vaccine than the Moderna vaccine, so taking the Moderna vaccine sends the message that "All vaccines are good enough", which is the correct message if the intention is to maximise uptake of limited vaccine supplies. This was also probably the reason why she took the AstraZeneca vaccine in the first place.
carbine 5y ago
This is what I had, and my one frustration is having such little data to suggest how this regime (mixing mRNA vaccines and long interval between doses) will or won’t perform over time.

Proven 5y ago

No inclination to let that Prizer dose be purchased for someone in Africa, eh?

dehrmann 5y ago

Hopefully someone's testing this, but I'm really curious if J&J would be better as a booster because it works somewhat differently.

ali92hm 5y ago

I got the J&J back in early April which was all I could get my hands on back then(no side effects aside from a sore arm). After seeing its efficacy (specially against the delta variant) I went and got a Pfizer shot in early July which hit me like a truck. Since I was already "fully vaccinated" I delayed the second dose of my Pfizer shot till now (~10 weeks) to maximize the induced immunity. I gotta say the second dose of Pfizer only give me mild side effects for half a day.